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= FYI...men that have pit bulls do so because they have tiny penis' and need to feel big , tough and strong, so they get a pit bull with a metal stud collar , women that have pit bulls, really want to be men , hahaha !!!
FYI, that comment was very rude. I am in Pit Bull Rescue because I care about the dogs. I in no way want to be a man, I just happen to, you know, make my own judgements from personal experiences, rather than listen to what the media tells me. Shocking!
I am trying so hard not to insult so that my comments are not deleted by the mods as they were last time.
pit bull mommysaid...
wow! some people say the most ignorant things!... If you can train a wolf to be loving but not trust them.. and you cant trust "pit bulls" because they were bred to fight, well then can you really trust ANY dog?!?! All dogs came from wolves right??? sooo I dont understand how people think that "pit bulls" are going to turn on you because years and years and years ago they were bred to fight dogs!?!?!
htl says,
The pit bulls have been bred to fight for years and years and are still bred for that purpose, pit bull fighting is a big underground sport in many circles, when i lived in n.e. ohio it was a monthly if not weekly event, with big money bet on the out come, dont think it isn't going on today just because you have a loving pit bull, watch tv read the paper all of the owners say after a dog ,child, or older person is attacked "ITS SO OUT OF Character FOR HIM HES JUST A BIG BABY" and as far as wolves vs dog go just about any dog cornered or hungry will attack or defend themselves thus the wolf can be brought out when needed
pit bull mommysaid...
wow! some people say the most ignorant things!... If you can train a wolf to be loving but not trust them.. and you cant trust "pit bulls" because they were bred to fight, well then can you really trust ANY dog?!?! All dogs came from wolves right??? sooo I dont understand how people think that "pit bulls" are going to turn on you because years and years and years ago they were bred to fight dogs!?!?!
htl says,
The pit bulls have been bred to fight for years and years and are still bred for that purpose, pit bull fighting is a big underground sport in many circles, when i lived in n.e. ohio it was a monthly if not weekly event, with big money bet on the out come, dont think it isn't going on today just because you have a loving pit bull, watch tv read the paper all of the owners say after a dog ,child, or older person is attacked "ITS SO OUT OF Character FOR HIM HES JUST A BIG BABY" and as far as wolves vs dog go just about any dog cornered or hungry will attack or defend themselves thus the wolf can be brought out when needed
Once again you are relying on the media, big mistake. Do some REAL research.
I am also in NE Ohio, and there is not a weekly story, nice try.
Anyway, when there is a story about a pit bull that bites a human, look beyond the flashy media trying to catch your attention story and look at the facts behind the story.
I'd say more than 75% of the time the dog was chained in the back yard. That is the worst thing you can do to a pit bull. Although they were originally bred to be fighting dogs, they were alos bred to be human friendly, they NEED people. Obviously a person who would leave a dog chained outside is not a responsible owner. I can assure you that dog was not spayed or neutered, they were not socialized, they were not obedience trained.
Like I've said before, the American Pit Bull Terrier is not for everyone. They need a strong responsible owner who is knowledgeable about the breed.
Unfortunately alot of the time the absolute wrong person is drawn to the breed because they think they are a tough dog, and they want to look tough.
This is where the problem lies, not with the dog itself.
You know, Boston Terriers were originally bred as fighting dogs, should we get rid of all of them too? What about the actual guardian breeds who were bred to be Human Aggressive? All your Dobes, Rotties, Mastiffs? I mean where does the madness end? It starts with one, give it time and any dog over 35 pounds will be on the chopping block.
i did not say it was in the media weekly so get your facts straight! i said dog fights are held monthly and may be weekly,on the same underground type function as **** fights!
the fellow i knew had a dog named tuff guy, he was undefeated he was what those in the fight business call a leg dog he would charge out into the pit and stick his leg out his opponent would bite it,then tuff guy would grab his neck and kill him...this is what the breed has been bred for thus the name pit bull!
google pit bull attacks, it will send you a daily round up of the pit bulls around the nation, yes not all are aggressive, but like my neighbor who sat in the emergency room at the animal hospital with a puzzled look on his face and said to me "I GUESS SAMPSON'S DANGEROUS?" DUH AS I SAID HOUNDS WERE BRED TO HUNT RETRIEVERS TO RETRIEVE, AND PIT BULLS WERE BRED TO BE AGGRESSIVE WHETHER YOUR LITTLE LOVING PIT WILL ATTACK SOME DAY WHO KNOWS?
I HAVE A COUPLE OF DACHSHUNDS AND THE FEMALE HATES EVERYONE, YES I GOT HER FROM A PERSON WHO WAS TO DUMB TO HOUSE TRAIN Her and he bought her from a puppy mill but i can control her, the neighbors 130 lb pit/mastiff is to big to control, like i said he saw my peaceful dachshund and leaped through a window. and this dog was never violent, abused natta reason for it to attack other than its what he was breed to do!
i dont think they should be slaughtered i just don know why anyone would want the liability of owning one?
i did not say it was in the media weekly so get your facts straight! i said dog fights are held monthly and may be weekly,on the same underground type function as **** fights!
the fellow i knew had a dog named tuff guy, he was undefeated he was what those in the fight business call a leg dog he would charge out into the pit and stick his leg out his opponent would bite it,then tuff guy would grab his neck and kill him...this is what the breed has been bred for thus the name pit bull!
google pit bull attacks, it will send you a daily round up of the pit bulls around the nation, yes not all are aggressive, but like my neighbor who sat in the emergency room at the animal hospital with a puzzled look on his face and said to me "I GUESS SAMPSON'S DANGEROUS?" DUH AS I SAID HOUNDS WERE BRED TO HUNT RETRIEVERS TO RETRIEVE, AND PIT BULLS WERE BRED TO BE AGGRESSIVE WHETHER YOUR LITTLE LOVING PIT WILL ATTACK SOME DAY WHO KNOWS?
I HAVE A COUPLE OF DACHSHUNDS AND THE FEMALE HATES EVERYONE, YES I GOT HER FROM A PERSON WHO WAS TO DUMB TO HOUSE TRAIN Her and he bought her from a puppy mill but i can control her, the neighbors 130 lb pit/mastiff is to big to control, like i said he saw my peaceful dachshund and leaped through a window. and this dog was never violent, abused natta reason for it to attack other than its what he was breed to do!
i dont think they should be slaughtered i just don know why anyone would want the liability of owning one?
I'm glad you don't want them to be slaughtered, but if noone is able to own them, then that's ultimately what will happen to them. Most of them are killed now anyway, we're only able to save a few.
I know they were bred to fight, therfor most are Dog Aggressive, which is fine, I just keep mine away from other dogs, but they were not bred to be Human Aggressive. They were bred to be human friendly so that a handler could get in the ring and handle the dogs without being bit. Any Human Aggressive pit bull was culled.
Of all the pit bulls I have dealt with at the shelter, and I'm talking hundreds, straight from the streets of Akron, bitten up like you wouldn't believe, I only came across one that was aggressive towards humans, her name was Missy, and I was with her when the needle went in and the life drained from her eyes.
People need to have some compassion for these dogs, they suffer the most horrendous things because of people, and then they are just thrown away, it makes me sick.
Lovebeingme, good job on biting your tounge with some of the rediculous comments that have been made, ive not been able to do that 100% of the time. Alot of the Pitbull attacks in the media are not actually pitbull attacks, but people yell pitbull when they dont actually know the breed.
IMHO people that fear pitbulls, also fear guns and the NRA, are big fans of Bill O Reilly and that Rosie O Donnell thing, they love sensationalism.
We can link to as many facts as http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Pit...banlegends.htm we want but people most likely wont even open them up to read because the hype has been hammered into their head. They dont seem to care the pitbulls win awards http://www.understand-a-bull.com/DogSurvey.htm like this, or that Staffs are used as companion dogs and are used as rescue dogs also in Germany / Brittain, and im sure many other places too. They are used as rehab dogs in Brittain also, for elderly and children, and children with mental / physical difficulties. I can see why, because even though my Staff is full of muscle and is fearless, he loves people and is gentle towards them, but most of his affection is towards children.
People who fear pits dont understand the fighting ring, the absolute dedication they need to show to their owners whilst fighting, and agression towards the dog. And yes, dog fighting still goes on today, nobody has said it dosent. But what i have repeated over and over and over again is that anybody that buys a dog from a fighting line it is their own fault for doing so. You need to ask to see the parents. 75% of breeders are good breeders, they have lines where agression towards dogs is being bred out of them, and have been for 100 years.
Here are some interesting sites http://www.eastangliansbtclub.co.uk/
http://www.pitbullpress.com/ARTICLES/MIKEY.html (broken link)
http://www.goodpooch.com/BSL/cdnbsl.htm (broken link)
http://www.goodpooch.com/BSL/failedBSL.htm (broken link) (Read the red text)
http://www.workingpitbull.com/fatalbook.htm (broken link) (Dog attackst he media dont report, because it doset involve a pitbull, therefore dosent fit their agenda)
To summarise, behind every pitbull (and any other dog) attack, there is usually a careless owner who either abuses the dog, or unknowing abuses the dog by not properly socialising.
What many people dont believe is I dont have a pit either.
BTW lovebeingme, i dont think you sound like a broken record, i enjoy sensible posts.
I'm glad you don't want them to be slaughtered, but if noone is able to own them, then that's ultimately what will happen to them. Most of them are killed now anyway, we're only able to save a few.
I know they were bred to fight, therfor most are Dog Aggressive, which is fine, I just keep mine away from other dogs, but they were not bred to be Human Aggressive. They were bred to be human friendly so that a handler could get in the ring and handle the dogs without being bit. Any Human Aggressive pit bull was culled.
Of all the pit bulls I have dealt with at the shelter, and I'm talking hundreds, straight from the streets of Akron, bitten up like you wouldn't believe, I only came across one that was aggressive towards humans, her name was Missy, and I was with her when the needle went in and the life drained from her eyes.
People need to have some compassion for these dogs, they suffer the most horrendous things because of people, and then they are just thrown away, it makes me sick.
I sound like a broken record.
Anyway, sorry if I misread the weekly thing.
You don't sound like a broken record. You are putting forth some very interesting and valid points. This poor breed and ones like it have truly been given a death sentence because of the stupidity and cruelty of people.
It's obvious that you are passionate about animals and their welfare.
This week in Baltimore two pitbulls (and yes they are pitbulls) attacked a 9 year old and 12 year old boy. The 12 year old jumped in to say his 9 year old friend. The dogs escaped their yard, which was by all standards a secure enclosure by getting over the fence and just attacked the boys. The boys were not doing anything like taunting the dogs or invading the dogs territory they were simply playing where they always played in their own neighborhood. The dogs were well cared for pets that were in no way neglected or abused. The damage to the children from the attack was extensive and they will be scarred for life, the 12 year old was lucky to survive as he had major blood vessels severed in the attack. Pitbulls can attack for no reason at all, they have been bred to do this. Unless the agression can be bred out of the breed these dogs are not to be trusted, in my opinion.
This week in Baltimore two pitbulls (and yes they are pitbulls) attacked a 9 year old and 12 year old boy. The 12 year old jumped in to say his 9 year old friend. The dogs escaped their yard, which was by all standards a secure enclosure by getting over the fence and just attacked the boys. The boys were not doing anything like taunting the dogs or invading the dogs territory they were simply playing where they always played in their own neighborhood. The dogs were well cared for pets that were in no way neglected or abused. The damage to the children from the attack was extensive and they will be scarred for life, the 12 year old was lucky to survive as he had major blood vessels severed in the attack. Pitbulls can attack for no reason at all, they have been bred to do this. Unless the agression can be bred out of the breed these dogs are not to be trusted, in my opinion.
I highly doubt you can attest to how these dogs were treated unless you are their owner. Are you? How do you know they were well cared for pets? Were the dogs spayed and neutered? UTD on vaccinations? Obedience trained? Did they have their CGC award?
The fact that these dogs got out of their enclosure is the OWNER'S fault. If they were irresponsible in this instance, it's likely they were irresponsible in other areas.
PIT BULLS DO WERE NOT BRED TO ATTACK HUMANS, THEY WERE NOT BRED TO ATTACK FOR NO REASON. If you are going to make statements like these educate yourself about the breed's history.
Again i agree with you. No dogs, no matter what breed just snap and attack people. There are warning signs which are ignored or misinterpreted (cant spell!)
As a precaution, a good breeder of Pits, Staffs, whatever will tell you to be a single dog family, just incase, but its not nececary anymore to be a one dog family, Staffs and im know pits are great in multidog familys, because of socialization. If the dogs can get out of an enclosure, ist the owners, not the dogs fault.
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