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The Sheriff Deputy should have known better, but at the same time, I thought uniformed LEO were allowed to go into federal facilities with their guns (maybe not, I don't know since I am not LE, but the cops responding seemed to think so). But even if not allowed, did the security guard really need to pull a gun on him? If I am reading the story right, the deputy walked in, the guard told the deputy he couldn't have his gun. So the deputy then turned around to leave the office and then the guard pulled his gun as the deputy was leaving and followed him as the deputy walked away.
Totally nuts. I'm not even going to say that the deputy should have known better, as he was in uniform, and it isn't like he tried to rush the door at a courthouse.
"Hi, I have a question about my taxes"
"Sir, you need to remove your gun in a federal office,"
*turning to leave "I can't as I'm in uniform. Good Day"
More importantly, he was calmly leaving. That's pretty obvious from the video. He was talking but not yelling.
Uhhhh, I have been to a courthouse enough times, that I am used to the protocol of "the guards" being US Marshalls relieving people of their weapons at the front door metal detectors. I myself have had to say "ohh shoot, lemme go put my pepper spray and my leatherman back in the car". It's usually no big deal.
I've been to the federal bldg downtime enough times, that everybody seems to know the heightened protocols since the Timothy McVeigh -era. Signs say leave your junk in the car. I'm suprized they put rent-a-cop/guard-card people at the front door, I assume that was a job only for sworn officers & federal law enforcement.
Square badge: You're not allowed to have that gun in the buildling.
Also: I won't let you leave the building.
I'm having a little trouble understanding the reasoning.
That's the part that makes absolutely no sense.
Maybe he thought it was a terrorist dressed as a Sheriff's Deputy and was trying to prevent him from invading the Social Security Office on the next floor
Uhhhh, I have been to a courthouse enough times, that I am used to the protocol of "the guards" being US Marshalls relieving people of their weapons at the front door metal detectors. I myself have had to say "ohh shoot, lemme go put my pepper spray and my leatherman back in the car". It's usually no big deal.
I've been to the federal bldg downtime enough times, that everybody seems to know the heightened protocols since the Timothy McVeigh -era. Signs say leave your junk in the car. I'm suprized they put rent-a-cop/guard-card people at the front door, I assume that was a job only for sworn officers & federal law enforcement.
I don't know about Ohio, but in my 40 years experience as a California police officer, both armed and unarmed security officers are, in general, poorly trained. The state has been trying to upgrade security officer training, but it didn't seem to be working by the time I retired.
I've gone into all sorts of local, county, state, and federal facilities in full uniform and never had a problem. However, security was normally handled by full-time LEOs, which makes a big difference. Even private security officers never challenged me. I always presented my department-issue ID, to remove any and all doubt.
Thankfully there was video. If not, Mall Cop might have gone too, too, far.
I don’t think the camera had any impact on the security guard’s actions
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