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Old 07-29-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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By that logic every man could marry one woman. That is equal treatment.

Yes, I think the argument can be made. I dont think it is a big deal tho. Government is overly involved in marriage as it is.
No, it wasn't equal treatment. That was the whole problem. A man could marry a woman but a woman could not. The law is supposed to treat men and women equally. The law is not supposed to differentiate based on a person's gender.


Currently, no one is allowed to have more than one legal spouse at a time. Not men, not women, , not anyone. That is equal.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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No one was allowed to marry a same sex partner for a long time too. And that changed.
Exactly. The law was based on a person's gender. Laws are not supposed to be based on a person's gender.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
Only if they want to legally marry.

Personally, I could not care less how consenting adults want to live their personal lives.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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So you don't think we follow Christian values? You don't think Christianity has influenced this country? You don't think some of the first people to settle here were persecuted Christians coming from England? They sure as hell weren't Jews or Muslims. You don't think some of our laws are Christian based (like Blue Laws, which some states, like mine, still have)?

My point is, the reason gay marriage was frowned upon in this country is because Christianity frowns upon it. We didn't think that taboo up out of nowhere. We got it from our most influential, prevalent religion that has existed here since the inception of this country. Religion states that the only people allowed to marry are a man and a woman.
Who cares? None of this is relevant to the law.

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We have now moved past that. There's no reason to say we also can't move past the idea that only two people can marry. We've changed it from two people - man and a woman - to two people - man and woman, man and man, woman and woman. The logical next step would be rethinking the whole "two people" idea.
That would require changing the law.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Why only 1? 2 is 1 and 1 is gone How about Freedom of religion and 1st amendmend? Our current laws deny that to Muslims.

I think it would be a lovely debate!
This just shows that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage in the first place. Separation of religion and state.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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This just shows that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage in the first place. Separation of religion and state.
Good luck with that.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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It's not a silly debate.

This country is also based on Christian values. Christians do not value homosexuality. Until very recently, homosexuality was seen as taboo (some could argue it still is seen as taboo to some). A man and woman marrying was the basis of this country for the last 200 years... but that changed. There is no reason to definitively say that the idea of someone marrying only one other person won't also change.
According to some Christians. Not everyone agrees with that statement, you know.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: in here, out there
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Just what every guy wants: disappoint two women at the same time, for the rest of your life.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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Who cares? None of this is relevant to the law.
It's not relevant to the law? How so?

And "who cares?" Obviously you, since you challenged what I was saying in the first place.


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That would require changing the law.
Because laws have never been amended or thrown out before...
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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According to some Christians. Not everyone agrees with that statement, you know.
Of course not. I'm one of them.
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