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Old 07-29-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Now that the gay marriage is the law of the land, can anyone truly deny the right for 2 girls to marry the same guy?

I think it's just a question of time before we see a lawsuit from a muslim, and a mormon and all their wives and some lesbian couple to challenge the status-quo. And if they do, I cannot see how the Supreme Court can deny them their right in light of last decision on gay marriage.
You obviously have not read, nor understand the law.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Now that the gay marriage is the law of the land, can anyone truly deny the right for 2 girls to marry the same guy?
Oh, my goodness! What a difficult question! Let me think...

Hmm... is "2" a different number than "3"?

That's a tough one...

I'm going to have to get back to you on this vitally important question.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why only 1? 2 is 1 and 1 is gone How about Freedom of religion and 1st amendmend? Our current laws deny that to Muslims.

I think it would be a lovely debate!
Yes, that would be interesting, wouldn't it. People who say they believe in freedom of religion arguing against freedom of religion.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
It's not a silly debate.

This country is also based on Christian values. Christians do not value homosexuality. Until very recently, homosexuality was seen as taboo (some could argue it still is seen as taboo to some). A man and woman marrying was the basis of this country for the last 200 years... but that changed. There is no reason to definitively say that the idea of someone marrying only one other person won't also change.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
We used to have a man and woman marriage system, that changed. I think that is the point being made here.

A two spouse system isn't it any more than a man and woman marriage system was it.

I don't think the OP was trolling, this has come up quite often and there are more than a few who believe it is practical and should be legal.

Nothing is "it". Not using marijuana was it too, now look.

The people in the USA who happen to think polygamy regardless of the sexes involved should be legal aren't mostly muslims. They are the white people who walk among you.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
No, I don't think he's trolling.

Yes, gays only wanted what others have.

Maybe I misread what pennyone was saying, but I interpreted the presentation not of equality, but of the concept of religious freedom. I'm not advocating it, and in fact would be very much against it. But if one believes in "freedom of religion", which is constantly being pushed, pushed, pushed, then how do you draw the line against what some particular religion says. I think it's a very interesting question.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:15 AM
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I don't know... "because it can be messy to unravel"? I really don't know... that sounds awfully LAME(!) to me as the reason a First World Nuclear Superpower gives to answer this question. And it is the only answer they have ever given. Legal Gay Marriage was and is a game changer. There is now a need to come to grips with the legal and social intricacies of polygamous and polyamorous marriage. Who knows, it might make the system of divorce fairer for the rest of us.
really messy to unravel... yes it could if allowed also change the rules of divorce. 2 vs 1 in a contract dispute and such. The world may need more lawyers.. Good thing I'm not a "first world nuclear superpower"
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
Didn't we just go through this with the gay marriage debate? The definition of marriage has changed repeatedly. It used to have be people of the same race. It used to have to be people of different genders. So why is it hard to believe that it couldn't go to more than two people?

The law for marriage should only go so far as consent. Children cannot be married and you can't marry animals or inanimate objects. But if three adults by their own volition chose to marry one another, why should it be denied?
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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This country is also based on Christian values.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

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A man and woman marrying was the basis of this country for the last 200 years... but that changed.
What is that even supposed to mean? The "basis of this country" is settlement and economic activity.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Um, are you seriously denying that Christianity is the religion this country was built upon? Do we not have "In God we Trust" written on our money? And do you think that God they're talking about is Allah? "To the republic, for which it stands, one nation, UNDER GOD"? Does the Oklahoma Statehouse not have the Ten Commandments in monument form on its property?

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What is that even supposed to mean? The "basis of this country" is settlement and economic activity.
I was logically following this argument made by another poster:

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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy, and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.
What this person means is the only people ever allowed to marry in our history are two people - a man and a woman. Three people (four, five, six...) cannot marry, because we've made it that way.

What I was saying is, we've also made it for the majority of our country's lifetime so far, that only a man and woman can marry at all, regardless of how many spouses they have, but no same sex marriages were allowed. But that changed recently. So we cannot say that the idea that monogamy is the only option won't also change.

Context helps...
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