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Old 11-04-2023, 08:29 PM
 
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While that was a record, I'm sure you know by living in the region that wild 30 - 40 F swings in daily temps (even daily high temps) are not that uncommon in the cold season, much more than in the warm season. Again, just looking at a random recent winter month (January 2020 at NWS Bridgeport)....the lowest daily high was 30 F (8 F below normal)....the highest daily high was 69 F (31 F above normal)...the difference was 39 F. Think of that in a typical summer month: The normal July high at Bridgeport is 83 F - a high 31 F above normal would be 114 F. My bigger point I guess, was that unlike the stability of the long summer season, where temp deviations are modest or even small...winter on the other hand (at least around here) has wild swings in temps/weather patterns. A random snow/flurries in November seems like with all the swings in temps it would not mean much for the Dec - March time frame.
The largest diurnal swings during the summer might be from 98° to 65°F. Just guessing. Temperatures of 114° in Southwestern CT-NYC area just aren't possible. Troy, NY's 108° on July 9, 1936 pushing the line of possibility.

 
Old 11-05-2023, 05:13 AM
 
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The largest diurnal swings during the summer might be from 98° to 65°F. Just guessing. Temperatures of 114° in Southwestern CT-NYC area just aren't possible. Troy, NY's 108° on July 9, 1936 pushing the line of possibility.
For July at BDR looks like 1957 had the largest monthly range with a Max of 103° and a low of 56° a 47 degree range. This year was 92° max, 60° low



For November.

1993 had the biggest range with a max of 78°(11/15) and a low of 20° (11/26). (58 degree range)

Last year had the 2nd largest range of 55 degrees with a Max of 79° (11/7) and a low of 24° (11/21)


 
Old 11-05-2023, 05:45 AM
 
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For July at BDR looks like 1957 had the largest monthly range with a Max of 103° and a low of 56° a 47 degree range. This year was 92° max, 60° low



For November.

1993 had the biggest range with a max of 78°(11/15) and a low of 20° (11/26). (58 degree range)

Last year had the 2nd largest range of 55 degrees with a Max of 79° (11/7) and a low of 24° (11/21)

I was talking one-day, not one month swings.
 
Old 11-05-2023, 06:25 AM
 
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The largest diurnal swings during the summer might be from 98° to 65°F. Just guessing. Temperatures of 114° in Southwestern CT-NYC area just aren't possible. Troy, NY's 108° on July 9, 1936 pushing the line of possibility.

The 108 in Troy actually supposedly occurred on July 22, 1926. It's actually somewhat disputed as is two candidates for the highest temperature ever recorded on Earth (for years it was 136F in 1922 in Libya, currently it is 134F in 1913 in Death Valley) because no other nearby stations were even close in temperature (and in the case of Death Valley, it has not gotten to within even 4 degrees of that record before or since, though the unprecedented spike in the Northwest a couple of years ago that was far hotter than ever before is keeping the case that maybe it was possible).

Here's one of many sources on the date of the 108 in Troy. It notes a 107 in Elmira on Sept 2, 1953 I didn't know of before (however much of the Northeast was over 100 that day despite it being September so not questioned, NYC was 103 for example).

https://wpdh.com/whats-the-hottest-t...ew-york-state/

In NYC itself the record is 106 in Central Park on the 1936 date you gave and 107 at LaGuardia on July 3, 1966.
 
Old 11-05-2023, 06:55 AM
 
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I was talking one-day, not one month swings.
I know but thats what I had access to. Hope you found it interesting
 
Old 11-05-2023, 06:59 AM
 
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The largest diurnal swings during the summer might be from 98° to 65°F. Just guessing. Temperatures of 114° in Southwestern CT-NYC area just aren't possible. Troy, NY's 108° on July 9, 1936 pushing the line of possibility.
No doubt, 114 F in the Tri-State area would really be pushing its, but never say never…lol. As the old timers used to say, weather records are made to be broken. I remember 2011 well, Newark hit 108 F (Bridgeport and Bradley hit 103 F). I was in Meriden and the car thermometer read 105 F ! Back in the 1936 heat wave you mention, New Jersey had a few 110 F readings I’ve read.

As far temp swings I was not really thinking diurnal…I was thinking monthly extremes in normal high temps. Many times in winter we’ll have a high of say 57 F…then a few days/weeks later, the high might only be 20 F (37 F difference). In summer those extremes in daily highs are normally smaller (10 – 20 F is common).
 
Old 11-05-2023, 07:00 AM
 
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The 108 in Troy actually supposedly occurred on July 22, 1926. It's actually somewhat disputed as is two candidates for the highest temperature ever recorded on Earth (for years it was 136F in 1922 in Libya, currently it is 134F in 1913 in Death Valley) because no other nearby stations were even close in temperature (and in the case of Death Valley, it has not gotten to within even 4 degrees of that record before or since, though the unprecedented spike in the Northwest a couple of years ago that was far hotter than ever before is keeping the case that maybe it was possible).

Here's one of many sources on the date of the 108 in Troy. It notes a 107 in Elmira on Sept 2, 1953 I didn't know of before (however much of the Northeast was over 100 that day despite it being September so not questioned, NYC was 103 for example).

https://wpdh.com/whats-the-hottest-t...ew-york-state/

In NYC itself the record is 106 in Central Park on the 1936 date you gave and 107 at LaGuardia on July 3, 1966.
The high that day in NYC was 77° (link). There would not be a 31° difference with Troy being higher. I tried to screenshot Page 39 of the NY Times (link to issue), (link) to article about that day's heat. Based on my knowledge of weather history I agree with the other date in your post, especially concerning September 1953. Those September events are fairly common, think 1970, 1973, 1983, and 1991 (I'm sure I'm missing some; going off memory).
 
Old 11-05-2023, 07:04 AM
 
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The 108 in Troy actually supposedly occurred on July 22, 1926. It's actually somewhat disputed as is two candidates for the highest temperature ever recorded on Earth (for years it was 136F in 1922 in Libya, currently it is 134F in 1913 in Death Valley) because no other nearby stations were even close in temperature (and in the case of Death Valley, it has not gotten to within even 4 degrees of that record before or since, though the unprecedented spike in the Northwest a couple of years ago that was far hotter than ever before is keeping the case that maybe it was possible).

Here's one of many sources on the date of the 108 in Troy. It notes a 107 in Elmira on Sept 2, 1953 I didn't know of before (however much of the Northeast was over 100 that day despite it being September so not questioned, NYC was 103 for example).

https://wpdh.com/whats-the-hottest-t...ew-york-state/

In NYC itself the record is 106 in Central Park on the 1936 date you gave and 107 at LaGuardia on July 3, 1966.

I think in 2021 Death Valley recorded 130 F.
 
Old 11-05-2023, 04:42 PM
 
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Boring pattern. No storms. No arctic blast. No heat.

GFS says continues past mid month.
 
Old 11-05-2023, 06:13 PM
 
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