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Old 06-21-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I just looked at this again and that location is part of a large shopping center. That is an out parcel which likely was approved to have a building when the center was originally approved. The owner just paved the area until someone wanted to build there. Again if is allowed under zoning, the owner has every right to build there. You may not agree with it but sorry that is not your decision. Jay

You still haven't answered me.. Are you saying there are no other areas to build that structure on??
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Took a couple of pics today...


Main Avenue Norwalk. Now that's a lot ready for development. Been years like that.


I think Best Buy considered it. This is where BJ's wanted it but residents fought and won.


I guess the Going out of business Sports Authority wont be moving there. lol




From another angle










So where it that in comparison to what's being built in that parking lot? A walk away.





No Jay, this isn't the only spot I know of where a structure would be better off built. lol
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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You still haven't answered me.. Are you saying there are no other areas to build that structure on??
I never said that. I said this is an "out parcel" which means it was a free standing building in a previously approved shopping center. When that center was approved by the city, it likely showed that they wanted to have a small building on that portion of the property. Without a tenant for it, the developer likely just paved over that area as parking until they found a tenant that wanted to occupy a building there. That is now happening. This is done all the time in shopping centers like this.

You seem to feel that you or someone can control what is and is not built on a privately owned property. Sorry but you can't. Just like you, a developer has every right to develop his or her property to its fullest. As long as a proposed development meets the zoning requirements of the zone they are in and the developer has made provisions for mitigating the development's impacts for things like drainage and traffic, no one can legally stop the developer from building there.

This is the same as your own home where you can do what you like to it as long as you conform to the zoning laws your house is in. If you want to add a second floor to your ranch home, you can do it. You want to add a garage, you can do that. Want to add a room off the back of the house, you can. As long as the additions meet the zoning laws as outlined in the city's zoning laws, you can do what you want, when you want. I am not sure why people don't understand that. Jay
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Old 06-21-2016, 02:50 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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In Norwalk. Yet another spot where they said, "Hey look, a parking lot. Lets build on it"


Last I noticed customers for Bobs and Wine Store were using this lot Especially around the holidays.


I know of and see an infinite amount of locations to build on, flat and even around busy areas, but no, inside a parking lot is better

Agreed saves green space, not as much extra asphalt.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Southwestern Connecticut
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So are you saying we need to have buildings within 200 feet of each other? It wasn't empty undeveloped land space. It was a parking lot for crying out loud.


Someone mentioned it here, there is empty undeveloped land space on that same road literally 2 minutes down the road. I wonder why they didn't choose that spot. BJs tried and residents said Go Screw. So that didn't happen.
Cambium, like JayCT said, it's the call of the land owner. And likely that spot was always planned to have been developed. Look at TD bank on the other side of the center. The new building makes the center symmetrical so it makes sense that it was planned to be developed or there was the option.

And it's really the land owner's choice. In the land owner's world, that lot and center are the only choices. Doesn't matter if there is additional space down the road if he doesn't own it. It's not town land, it's private.

Trader Joe's would be cool down the street. There's a ton of new apartments in the neighborhood currently and still being built. All these new people are increasing the demand for more food sources.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Community conversation to be held on Norwalk transit plan | News | thehour.com

Fitch Rates Norwalk, CT's Series 2016 GOs 'AAA'; Outlook Stable

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...eries-2016-GOs
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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"In two years’ time, however, that bubble is set to burst with the introduction of a major upscale competitor 10 miles distant in Norwalk, with at least one person wary of what that will mean for Stamford Town Center. As it happens, he’s the one who calls the shots at the mall’s co-owner Taubman Centers"

"In a candid response last month to an analyst query, Taubman Centers CEO Robert Taubman indicated he is under no illusions about the competitive pressures Stamford Town Center faces as General Growth Properties (NYSE: GGP) readies to break ground later this year on The SoNo Collection, situated in South Norwalk just off Interstate 95 and Route 7, with a prospective opening date of 2018.
“There is no question if GGP builds … it will put pressure on Stamford,” Taubman said in a May conference call. “Stamford has been more of a community asset,  more local within the city, for some time … but obviously it will be better if Norwalk didn’t move forward.”

Malls facing a more competitive future - GreenwichTime
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The Stamford Mall is pretty terrible for what stores they offer---they should be nervous.
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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The Stamford Mall is pretty terrible for what stores they offer---they should be nervous.
I don't think they need to be nervous. Location, location, location, money.

There is a map on the first page of City-Data that shows the income of any particular area. Within a 0-5 mile radius (a lot within walking distance) to the Stamford Mall many areas have an income level of about $80,000 to $90,000 a year. Within the South Norwalk area the income is about half that. There are also many new apartments/condos being built in the downtown Stamford area which will no doubt raise the income level and foot traffic to the Stamford mall. Don't forget all the high end companies near the Stamford mall. When you only have 1 hour for lunch you will go to the closest location.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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I think SW CT has enough wealth for two successful urban malls. Shouldn't be a problem.

If anything, the immediate region is under-retailed. You have one of the wealthiest places on the planet, and there's no Saks, no Neiman Marcus, no Nordstrom. Many of the high-end stores typical in Manhattan, Short Hills, the Westchester, North Shore of LI, aren't in Fairfield.

I mean, I go to relatives in Detroit and they have all these stores in the suburbs. I think if suburban Detroit can handle Saks, Neiman Marcus, and three Nordstroms, SW CT, one of the wealth centers of the planet, can do the same. Even suburban Cleveland has these stores.

Heck, there are like four malls in Paramus, NJ, and they all do well. And SW CT has even better demographics than North Jersey.
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