[JayCT]

Originally Posted by WouldLoveTo

Now we're all required to have insurance, whether we can afford it or not. So that doesn't really count anymore. I didn't realize other states turned people away. Sure wish CT turned people away that used the ER for sniffles.

I was being a bit sarcastic in my prior post. Seems like the only people that get care are the poor.

It still does matter. Not everyone has insurance even if they are supposed to and many that do have such high copays they might as well not have it at all. Also what about those on disability like the person I mentioned above? They can't afford insurance so they are at the mercy of the hospitals. Jay

[atlaw]

Originally Posted by WouldLoveTo

Now we're all required to have insurance, whether we can afford it or not. So that doesn't really count anymore. I didn't realize other states turned people away. Sure wish CT turned people away that used the ER for sniffles.

I was being a bit sarcastic in my prior post. Seems like the only people that get care are the poor.

no hospital can turn anyone away. they might try to persuade you but they can't refuse treatment

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by atlaw

no hospital can turn anyone away. they might try to persuade you but they can't refuse treatment

While they do not formally refuse treatment, they make it extremely difficult for people to get that treatment. The people I mention above were told that their symptoms were nothing and the hospital refused to do tests FOR YEARS on one of them. After years of going back and forth, the hospital finally agreed to do a test that the person wanted and it showed they had what the hospital said was not possible. Her story was even in that city's newspaper. For privacy I am not going to give more information.

The other person I mentioned had so many problems over the years with hospitals not treating her well, she gave up trying. By the time they did something it was too late. Her family thought about filing a lawsuit but was told they would have a long and not necessarily that successful of a battle (meaning even if they did win the settlement would likely be minimal at best). So sure if you walk into a hospital bleeding all over the place, they will treat you. But if you walk in with symptoms that are not obvious and require a lot of testing, they give you the run around. Jay

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by atlaw

no hospital can turn anyone away. they might try to persuade you but they can't refuse treatment

They can and will turn you away unless it's life threatening. While you're probably less likely to be turned away in CT, try walking into a hospital with a laundry list of complaints without insurance and let us know how that turns out no matter what state your in.

Hospitals are only required to stabilize your life threatening condition - then you are on your own.

Dentists are even worse since they do not have to treat anyone by law even if it's an emergency.

[Sigequinox]

Originally Posted by JayCT

It still does matter. Not everyone has insurance even if they are supposed to and many that do have such high copays they might as well not have it at all. Also what about those on disability like the person I mentioned above? They can't afford insurance so they are at the mercy of the hospitals. Jay

So it's the states fault and not the hospitals fault? Shouldn't the hospital, which needs to make money to continue providing service, have the right to decide how much pro bono medical care it can AFFORD to provide?

The idea that people who can't afford healthcare are entitled to it for free is ridiculous. Last time I checked, BTW, Florida is not about to consolidate a large portion of it's healthcare system. CT will continue to force it's hospitals out of business, and then everyone will get crappy healthcare, including the ones who pay a boatload of money on insurance.

Not sure what industry you work in, but I would love to hear how many times YOU or your company have provided free service to those who can't afford it.

[Lalalally]

Originally Posted by Sigequinox

So it's the states fault and not the hospitals fault? Shouldn't the hospital, which needs to make money to continue providing service, have the right to decide how much pro bono medical care it can AFFORD to provide?

The idea that people who can't afford healthcare are entitled to it for free is ridiculous. Last time I checked, BTW, Florida is not about to consolidate a large portion of it's healthcare system. CT will continue to force it's hospitals out of business, and then everyone will get crappy healthcare, including the ones who pay a boatload of money on insurance.

Not sure what industry you work in, but I would love to hear how many times YOU or your company have provided free service to those who can't afford it.

This!!!

[Lalalally]

And actually, EVERYONE is to have insurance now per Obamacare, and if they don't, it's now THEIR fault at this point, and are hopefully being fined heftily....

[crouching_tiger]

Originally Posted by Sigequinox

So it's the states fault and not the hospitals fault? Shouldn't the hospital, which needs to make money to continue providing service, have the right to decide how much pro bono medical care it can AFFORD to provide?

The idea that people who can't afford healthcare are entitled to it for free is ridiculous. Last time I checked, BTW, Florida is not about to consolidate a large portion of it's healthcare system. CT will continue to force it's hospitals out of business, and then everyone will get crappy healthcare, including the ones who pay a boatload of money on insurance.

Not sure what industry you work in, but I would love to hear how many times YOU or your company have provided free service to those who can't afford it.

And there you have it folks, what is in a nutshell the difference between a first world progressive state like Connecticut with a modicum of compassion for the downtrodden and a third world regressive hellhole called Florida with so called "southern values" who love to kick the poor in the nuts.

All states like Florida can do is steal jobs from progressive states with so called "tax breaks" (legal bribery by giving away tax dollars of citizens to corporations instead of using the monies for education, healthcare etc.).

Too bad the New England states with their original ideas of Liberté, égalité, fraternité are losing out in this race to the bottom.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by JayCT

At least there is Amazon who is hiring several hundred for their new distribution center in Windsor. And lets not forget there are major warehouses in the area for Walgreens, Home Depot, Dollar Tree, Home Goods and several others. Still not good news though. Dannel better get his act together fast. Jay

Amazon offsets about 90% of the Hallmark Loss. Malloy is making the 1962 Mets look like World Champions.

[Lalalally]

Hey Hidden Dragon - too many of us are now seeing through the light of this Francophile horse poop. We cannot as a society of givers, continue to sustain the takers. It does not work. EVER. Yes, the REAL needy -- the ones who are in immediate need of a safety net, YES!!! by all means we should take care of them!! But this generational nonsense?? Nope, Big fat BS, IMO. And that's the absolute difference between a self-reliant, productive society who also happens to have compassion for society in general vs. the socialistic poppycock the left of today likes to spew all over the place these days, where everyone --from cradle to grave -- not only "deserves," but has an absolute "right" to be taken care of by their "government." It doesn't work. It's been tried numerous times throughout history, and it does not work, anywhere in the world, EVER. And please don't try to throw up The Canada, Sweden (or any other Scandanavian country FTM) cards in my face. Hardly anyone lives there anyway, because it's just too damn cold and remote anyway. .. The only tried and true economic standard that has pulled MILLIONS out of poverty, is CAPITILISM. (Btw, when I was a kid, before the Ethiopian crisis, we were all concerned and consumed about sending our left-over-dinner to the starving kids in Communist China -- this was of course WAY before China embraced capitalism. John Lennon even sung about it. Look it up...)