[cynic1]

Originally Posted by JayCT

That is just tuition. Add in fees, books, room and board and you get the costs NewJeff is quoting. Jay

And U Conn doesn't charge for those things ? .. fully costed and Ole Miss is still 10 grand less expensive...

[DigitalMilford]

Originally Posted by cynic1

University of Mississippi's ( Ole Miss ) annual tuition for a resident full time student is $7,500. Must have confused the fact that there are 24,000 full time students currently enrolled.

If you're comparing the same numbers, Ole Miss is $7,700 and UCONN is $10,300. In-state tuition.

Both good schools, although, personally, I don't like living in the south.

[ayoskillz]

Originally Posted by DigitalMilford

If you're comparing the same numbers, Ole Miss is $7,700 and UCONN is $10,300. In-state tuition.

Both good schools, although, personally, I don't like living in the south.

Especially Mississippi

[Sigequinox]

Originally Posted by JayCT

That is just tuition. Add in fees, books, room and board and you get the costs NewJeff is quoting. Jay

Kind of, but the #s are a bit off. The room and board quote on Umiss includes meal plan, Uconn does not. That # was likely added by mistake from Jeff in a genuine attempt to do apples to apples comparison.

Using the 5 variables: tuition, Housing, meals, fees and books the totals are roughly

Uconn- $27k
Umiss- $18.5k

Uconn is one of the higher cost in-state schools. By far, the best bang for your buck (with no other variables other than school caliber and cost) are Texas and California. Both having world class universities for less than cost of regional class Uconn.

That being said, Uconn is still far better deal for residents than most (all?) of its private University peers. This is especially so in all the key areas that matter to most people such as industrial and geographical diversity of alumni network, national name recognition, total cost, available courses and majors (important for undeclared/uncertain students) access to internships and research, simple transfer programs in place with state community colleges (GREAT deal for not wasting money on stupid pre-req/humanities req courses like English, biology 101, stats 101, women studies..), etc.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Sigequinox

Kind of, but the #s are a bit off. The room and board quote on Umiss includes meal plan, Uconn does not. That # was likely added by mistake from Jeff in a genuine attempt to do apples to apples comparison.

Using the 5 variables: tuition, Housing, meals, fees and books the totals are roughly

Uconn- $27k
Umiss- $18.5k

Uconn is one of the higher cost in-state schools. By far, the best bang for your buck (with no other variables other than school caliber and cost) are Texas and California. Both having world class universities for less than cost of regional class Uconn.

That being said, Uconn is still far better deal for residents than most (all?) of its private University peers. This is especially so in all the key areas that matter to most people such as industrial and geographical diversity of alumni network, national name recognition, total cost, available courses and majors (important for undeclared/uncertain students) access to internships and research, simple transfer programs in place with state community colleges (GREAT deal for not wasting money on stupid pre-req/humanities req courses like English, biology 101, stats 101, women studies..), etc.

If your figures are correct, UConn is a much better deal for residents. Though UConn is about 46 percent higher than Ole Miss, median income in Connecticut is 78 percent higher than Mississippi. That means more residents here can afford to go to the school.

And the term Board means it includes food. As someone who is paying for UConn right now, I can say that the $27,000 is correct and includes tuition, room, the meal plan, books and fees. Can't confirm the cost of Ole Miss. Jay

[cynic1]

You can get the cost info off USNEWS and WR on every school in the country or on each schools web site.

As to its income ... MS is an agricultural and thus rural state with a population that's about 50 % minority....for historical reasons. Its hard to make valid comparisons on that basis ...since the cost of living is between 35 and 50 % lower in MS than CT

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by cynic1

You can get the cost info off USNEWS and WR on every school in the country or on each schools web site.

As to its income ... MS is an agricultural and thus rural state with a population that's about 50 % minority....for historical reasons. Its hard to make valid comparisons on that basis ...since the cost of living is between 35 and 50 % lower in MS than CT

Sorry but median income is what the average person in the state makes. Doesn't matter what they do or the reason. The fact is UConns tuition is more affordable to a median income family. Jay

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry but median income is what the average person in the state makes. Doesn't matter what they do or the reason. The fact is UConns tuition is more affordable to a median income family. Jay

Yes, but southern and western state universities skew (relatively) richer, because it is not assumed that a kid from an affluent family will go to a private university. At least, not as much as in the northeast.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry but median income is what the average person in the state makes. Doesn't matter what they do or the reason. The fact is UConns tuition is more affordable to a median income family. Jay

Just to make this a little more off topic, but median is the midpoint of a data set and NOT the average.

For example, if the median income of a state is $50,000, half the the house holds earn less than 50k and the other half more than 50k.

[Sigequinox]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Sorry but median income is what the average person in the state makes. Doesn't matter what they do or the reason. The fact is UConns tuition is more affordable to a median income family. Jay

Not to be a stickler, but median income is what the middle income earner makes, not the average

Anyway, I haven't done the math nor plan to do so, but setting the relative cost for resident aside, we still need to answer the question of "why" Uconn is so expensive. The concept you bring up should then apply to NY, CA and NJ which it does not, so it's worth ignoring to an extent for now. What are Uconn students getting for the additional cost? It's a rural campus with tax exempt status, so we can avoid the "higher costs" of CT conversation too...

.so both campuses should cost roughly the same amount to operate, both are rural, both in states that no one in the country or world give a poop about, both are considered good schools yet they are very different in price. Is CT simply exploiting the its population? Is CT wasting too much money hiring quacks like "professors" who say their WOMEN/FEMINISM class is too...wait for it...vagina-centric (WTF does that even mean?). Is it that CT has an awful economic track record and cannot afford to subsidize university education to the level of our self righteous high horse snobbery but Mississippi can? Is it that CT allows illegal immigrants to attend our schools without contributing to "the system" but MIssissippi tells them to bug off ?I ask in complete seriousness, as it's a very interesting topic that I don't know the answer to.