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Plilosophy, among other things is learned? Through self education, formal education, and interaction with objects in our world.
If you want to change someone's thinking patterns you must teach them new knowledge. Which is all about learning.
Yeah, but that kind of learning isn't likely to come from a high school (illegal) or college course. Rather, it's imparted to people through their parents, society in general, and the media.
Retail service jobs now use more computer technology than ever before, which requires more training. Truck drivers now carry laptops and wireless internet connections. Janitors need more training now for security reasons. Waiters use handheld ordering devices that weren't available in the past.
None of which requires college education. I've seen people with Down Syndrome proficiently operate fast food cash registers before.
It's just a good example of credential inflation. Since we have an oversupply of college graduates the next step is to give hiring preference to people who are certified in more than 1 skill area. (So then everyone will get two degrees and we'll have an oversupply of people with two degrees and then businesses will give preference to people with three degrees, and so on.)
It's clearly hokey as evidenced by all of the people in this forum who thought that going to East Bumblecrap college and majoring in Origami was a guaranteed ticket to a fat paycheck.
The scam is that East Bumblecrap U. advertised and sold people on getting a degree from Bumblecrap and also advertised their Origami program. EBU very likely also published very misleading if not knowingly false employment and graduate income statistics.
So, in that case perhaps what we need is more skilled traded education as opposed to four year college education in preparation for (insufficient numbers of) white collar jobs.
Bingo. Not everyone can be king or queen. That's the problem with America. America peddles bs/delusion-drenched dreams that anyone can be a CEO and kids eat it up with a spoon
The scam is that East Bumblecrap U. advertised and sold people on getting a degree from Bumblecrap and also advertised their Origami program. EBU very likely also published very misleading if not knowingly false employment and graduate income statistics.
Sure, I'm fine with banning any false advertising. But there has always been a sucker born every minute, and I can't "fool proof" life to ensure that none of these people ever select from an infinite array of moronic choices. Modern adult life assumes some ability to think for yourself and apply common sense to one's decision making. Most people with some wits about them would question the source when presented with income statistics and seek independent corroborating evidence. What do these people do when a "Nigerian prince" emails them and asks for their bank account number so that he can send them a million dollars?
I haven't read 11 pages worth of this but I firmly believe that EVERYONE needs some kind of post-secondary education-4 year college, 2 year community college/trade school, military, etc. While there are SOME job available for someone with just a high school diploma, those jobs are few and far between and are almost all dead end jobs. If that is the kind of life you want, hey, have at it, but most people want more.
There is also a lot to be learned going to college that isn't just in your textbooks. It is a great way for kids to grow up, leave home, spread their wings with the safety net of the college to help them along. Kids that stay at home after high school don't get those same experiences or challenges.
Might that money and resources be better spent on other things such as infrastructure, economic development, and better medical care for the lower classes?
Educating the lower classes will help them make healthier decisions to live healthier lives.
You seem to be struggling with the concept of education.
Does the employer pay the cost of the college education?
Education has nothing to do with it. Rather, rationality, morality, and parentage prevent irrational self-destructive behavior.
Since the knowledge stays with the person, I think the person should pay for the education.
Rationality, morality, etc. are all *learned* through some form of education.
The problem you and I have here is that you cannot break free from "college is the only education in the world" thinking. I see college as one part of a failing system and education as many varied forms of learning.
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