Cleveland Development Discussions (Euclid, Ohio City: hunting, programs, street)

[reretarff]

If you actually learned how to read, I said that the main campus and Hillcrest get a lot more attention.

Hillcrest isn't a minor part of the Cleveland Clinic. If it were, it wouldn't be rated one of the top 100 best hospitals in the country, there wouldn't be over $100 million in renovations and expansions being done there, and celebrities and other famous people wouldn't go to Hillcrest whenever they needed surgery.

Even if doctors work at several locations, there's still a reason that a majority of them work at Hillcrest, whether it's part time or full time.

You might "work in the field", but I'm not sure if you're very familiar with The Cleveland Clinic.

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by reretarff

If you actually learned how to read, I said that the main campus and Hillcrest get a lot more attention.

Hillcrest isn't a minor part of the Cleveland Clinic. If it were, it wouldn't be rated one of the top 100 best hospitals in the country, there wouldn't be over $100 million in renovations and expansions being done there, and celebrities and other famous people wouldn't go to Hillcrest whenever they needed surgery.

Even if doctors work at several locations, there's still a reason that a majority of them work at Hillcrest, whether it's part time or full time.

You might "work in the field", but I'm not sure if you're very familiar with The Cleveland Clinic.

What gives you the idea that "too much" money is being invested in Hillcrest though? Whose to say what is too much for a private company to invest in something? Are you on their board of trustees or something *cough cough*?

[reretarff]

Originally Posted by Cleverfield

What gives you the idea that "too much" money is being invested in Hillcrest though? Whose to say what is too much for a private company to invest in something? Are you on their board of trustees or something *cough cough*?

Considering that Cleveland Clinic closed Huron Hospital for the reason that they couldn't afford to keep it open, and that other hospitals have services and departments that close because of a lack of money or for being moved to downtown or Hillcrest, or the fact that hospitals like Euclid or South Pointe aren't in the best shape while the downtown campus and Hillcrest get millions of dollars for unneeded renovations and expansions, makes it obvious that Hillcrest and the main campus get more attention.

I have several family members and friends who work/worked for The Cleveland Clinic, and I have lots of family and friends who live near hospitals like Euclid or what used to be Huron say that those hospitals are in bad shape.

Just out of curiosity, do you even use The Cleveland Clinic?

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by reretarff

Considering that Cleveland Clinic closed Huron Hospital for the reason that they couldn't afford to keep it open, and that other hospitals have services and departments that close because of a lack of money or for being moved to downtown or Hillcrest, or the fact that hospitals like Euclid or South Pointe aren't in the best shape while the downtown campus and Hillcrest get millions of dollars for unneeded renovations and expansions, makes it obvious that Hillcrest and the main campus get more attention.

I have several family members and friends who work/worked for The Cleveland Clinic, and I have lots of family and friends who live near hospitals like Euclid or what used to be Huron say that those hospitals are in bad shape.

Just out of curiosity, do you even use The Cleveland Clinic?

While I agree with you somewhat about Huron Hospital (although they did build a health center there in it's place), you're wrong in saying that Euclid and South Pointe aren't in the best shape. Both of those hospitals, in fact, were recently fixed up and/or remodeled. Obviously you're not in Warrensville Heights as much as you claim, or you would have seen the scaffolding that was on South Pointe for 2+ years. The Clinic and OU recently invested a combined total of $36 million in that hospital.

"OU will spend $36 million, which includes renovating a building on the South Pointe Hospital campus and hiring faculty and staff. The Clinic's contribution of $13 million includes the building renovations as well as medical education support. The Brentwood Foundation, a nonprofit, private foundation that advances osteopathic medicine, is providing a $5 million grant to South Pointe Hospital and $6 million to graduate medical education."

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...en_medica.html
And Euclid hospital has seen a lot of improvements as well:

"Over the past five years the Clinic has invested $18 million to renovate the emergency department, add an ultrasound unit and update infrastructure such as elevators and plumbing. The community hospital is now a destination for Clinic patients seeking specialty orthopedic and rehabilitation care."

Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals' plans in Euclid could affect access to medical care | cleveland.com

Many of the CC hospitals have seen renovation lately, not just the Main Campus and Hillcrest. Again, Reretarff, you continue to make baseless claims based on opinions and anecdotes, not facts. I've asked you to do a little research before you post, but you've refused, so you will continue to look foolish on this board.

[ctownballr27]

I'm surprised rere is allowed to use a keyboard. Is there a way to block his/her posts? I'm losing more and more faith in humanity every time I have to read rere's pointless, off-base drivel.

[reretarff]

Originally Posted by Cleverfield

While I agree with you somewhat about Huron Hospital (although they did build a health center there in it's place), you're wrong in saying that Euclid and South Pointe aren't in the best shape. Both of those hospitals, in fact, were recently fixed up and/or remodeled. Obviously you're not in Warrensville Heights as much as you claim, or you would have seen the scaffolding that was on South Pointe for 2+ years. The Clinic and OU recently invested a combined total of $36 million in that hospital.

"OU will spend $36 million, which includes renovating a building on the South Pointe Hospital campus and hiring faculty and staff. The Clinic's contribution of $13 million includes the building renovations as well as medical education support. The Brentwood Foundation, a nonprofit, private foundation that advances osteopathic medicine, is providing a $5 million grant to South Pointe Hospital and $6 million to graduate medical education."

Ohio University to open medical school at Cleveland Clinic's South Pointe Hospital | cleveland.com
And Euclid hospital has seen a lot of improvements as well:

"Over the past five years the Clinic has invested $18 million to renovate the emergency department, add an ultrasound unit and update infrastructure such as elevators and plumbing. The community hospital is now a destination for Clinic patients seeking specialty orthopedic and rehabilitation care."

Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals' plans in Euclid could affect access to medical care | cleveland.com

Many of the CC hospitals have seen renovation lately, not just the Main Campus and Hillcrest. Again, Reretarff, you continue to make baseless claims based on opinions and anecdotes, not facts. I've asked you to do a little research before you post, but you've refused, so you will continue to look foolish on this board.

My mom has worked at Euclid for almost 20 years, and I was just there on Monday. The hospital is alright, but could be in better shape. Hillcrest is in a lot better shape. And $18,000 for the one renovation for the next 10 years or more isn't as much as Hillcrest getting $100 Million+ for renovations, and expansions, which Euclid hasn't had any of in the past 10 years.

[Cleveland_Collector]

Originally Posted by reretarff

If you actually learned how to read, I said that the main campus and Hillcrest get a lot more attention.

Hillcrest isn't a minor part of the Cleveland Clinic. If it were, it wouldn't be rated one of the top 100 best hospitals in the country, there wouldn't be over $100 million in renovations and expansions being done there, and celebrities and other famous people wouldn't go to Hillcrest whenever they needed surgery.

Even if doctors work at several locations, there's still a reason that a majority of them work at Hillcrest, whether it's part time or full time.

You might "work in the field", but I'm not sure if you're very familiar with The Cleveland Clinic.

No, not at all. I practically lived there for over a year, but I don't know anything about it. Clearly not as much as a sheltered Solonite.

When CCF acquired Hillcrest (and the rest of the Meridia system), they kept the status quo for nearly a decade. The modification and expansion has only been done recently. And, if you knew anything about Hillcrest other than it got a new bed tower and a couple of ORs, you would know that it was a largely outdated, 40+ year old hospital in dire need of renovation until very recently. CCF put money into it because its choices were to either update it or close it (similar to Huron). It is a good hospital, but it is a regional satellite hospital of which there are many. And, the main campus is the focal point which dwarfs them all. As for your assertion that "celebrities and other famous people" somehow make Hillcrest their choice, that is just blatantly false. They go to CCF, period. Their surgery is handled wherever the OR is available and equipped. It could just as easily happen at Fairview or Southpointe. But, more often than not, it will occur at the main campus. It will depend on the type and severity of the surgery itself.

Also, I know you have a hard time leaving Solon, but look around a little. You'll see that they're putting money into lots of areas around the community. Hillcrest is a small part of it.

Btw, I find your attempt at derision to be amusing. Kind of like the pontifications of the village idiot.

[ohioaninsc]

Originally Posted by reretarff

Cleveland Clinic isn't doing as well as they say on the news. A lot of the money goes to Hillcrest Hospital, more than should be anyways.

LOL...the nation's best hospital system isnt' doing well .

They must be doing something right...committing over $300 million to the new cancer center and a new parking deck...being ranked #1 or #2 every year.


As for this, I like the look of UC's Siedeman Cancer Center better...wish they could renovate the art deco building there instead but oh well...wonder what they'll do w/ the current Taussig Cancer Center then and will they keep the name or change it...UH changed theres as it was originally known as the Ireland Cancer Center...I guess Siedeman must have donated more money lol.

[Butchie Boy]

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[maxmodder]

Originally Posted by reretarff

My mom has worked at Euclid for almost 20 years, and I was just there on Monday. The hospital is alright, but could be in better shape. Hillcrest is in a lot better shape. And $18,000 for the one renovation for the next 10 years or more isn't as much as Hillcrest getting $100 Million+ for renovations, and expansions, which Euclid hasn't had any of in the past 10 years.

Euclid....don't even get me started on that city...