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There are abandoned homes in Philadelphia that have been that way for 50 years. That would never happen in San Francisco because of the value of Real Estate. There people will pay $750,000 just to buy a lot and tear down the house.
I really do not know if that is true or not. However, when houses are abandoned and the taxes not paid....one would assume the house would be condemned and torn down; like in any other city.
I can't believe there are still people trying to claim San Francisco and San Jose are not in the same metro area. It is absolutely ludicrous.
The Philly to NY comparison is more akin to Bay Area to Sacramento (approximately the same distance), and no one would EVER try and claim the Bay Area and Sacramento are part of the same metro area.
Driving from SF to San Jose (half hour w/ no traffic) on 101 or taking Caltrain (35 minutes on the express) you feel like you're going through one city. The population signs are the only indication youre not. Same with Oakland to San Jose (And clearly, SF and Oakland border each other).
This isn't any cohort...Anyone whos lived in or spent significant time in the Bay Area will immediately tell you SF/Oakland/San Jose are all part of the same metro. Like someone said, its a triangle of cities with unfettered development in between that are economically, culturally, and socially dependant on each other. The physical geography of the area (surronded by hills and mountains) makes it even more apparent.
Its crazy that there are people on this board who wont accept this..It's like arguing that the sky isn't blue.
There are abandoned homes in Philadelphia that have been that way for 50 years. That would never happen in San Francisco because of the value of Real Estate. There people will pay $750,000 just to buy a lot and tear down the house.
The 2009 median sales price for this quarter, in San Francisco is $472,000.00 and prices have fallen, in the same quarter by a WHOPPING 31%. Philadelphia has a much lower median value...but they did not experience the unsustainable housing boom like other metros.; it's median house price for the quarter fell by 10.5%. Philadelphia's median housing price was $211,000.00
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San Francisco would still come out on top if there was a new survey,it is more of a vibrant city than Philly by far.Just to come in to San Francisco on the Golden Gate Bridge,especially at night says it all.
I completely agree that San Francisco and San Jose are one metro but a lot of people are discounting the fact that Philly and New York, which are the two biggest cities on the entire East Coast, lie only 45 miles apart. How can you say that this area is less integrated or powerful. I don't really care about tv affiliations or whatever else people are using to make their point. Of course New York and Philly have separate identities. New York is the biggest city in the most powerful country in the world. And of course San Jose will be integrated into SF metro simply because it's not a very influential city. Philadelphia's and New York's GDP are 9th and 2nd in the world respectively. San Francisco's is 15th and San Jose and Oakland are not even in the top 100. Give credit where credit is due
I can't believe there are still people trying to claim San Francisco and San Jose are not in the same metro area. It is absolutely ludicrous.
The Philly to NY comparison is more akin to Bay Area to Sacramento (approximately the same distance), and no one would EVER try and claim the Bay Area and Sacramento are part of the same metro area.
Driving from SF to San Jose (half hour w/ no traffic) on 101 or taking Caltrain (35 minutes on the express) you feel like you're going through one city. The population signs are the only indication youre not. Same with Oakland to San Jose (And clearly, SF and Oakland border each other).
This isn't any cohort...Anyone whos lived in or spent significant time in the Bay Area will immediately tell you SF/Oakland/San Jose are all part of the same metro. Like someone said, its a triangle of cities with unfettered development in between that are economically, culturally, and socially dependant on each other. The physical geography of the area (surronded by hills and mountains) makes it even more apparent.
Its crazy that there are people on this board who wont accept this..It's like arguing that the sky isn't blue.
I understand your arguement...you are not listening to the other side. One can include Allentown, Reading, etc. with Philadelphia...if you disagree with the Census Bureau, than by all means feel free to contact them and correct their errors.
From my experience there are abandoned homes in North Philly that were abandoned when I was a Child. I am on Social Security. Like many Rust Belt Cities you can't give them away. Philadelphia was the 3rd Largest City with 2 million people when I was young, now it is barely 1 million
Where I lived in San Francisco there was hardly a house under $1 million, for a row. At the worst month of the mortgage crises there were 2 forclosures in the zip code
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