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I don't disagree, but I do think it should be pointed out that San Diego is also adjacent to Tijuana which has a higher murder rate than any US city. You can't help but feel a bit of the drug trade violence that gets played out in most US cities happens a bit over the border. But none the less, SD is a very safe city by US standards.
Oh for sure there's drug trade violence, but it's conducted a lot different than a corner kid in Chicago, Baltimore, *insert ______ city* shooting someone on the adjacent block.
The spill over is more represented in opioid/drug cases & trafficking arrest etc..
Tijuana is a complete parallel universe and is treated as "over there."
This.... it's a combination of it being exceptionally affluent and where it's not, you have a huge foreign born population whose are focused on working and staying out of trouble. Couple that with "chill" culture and there's really no drivers for it.
That being said, it's not without its own gripes but that's a different convo, for a different thread.
That's one of many reasons for the nickname "San Diokyo". It's very impressive for a city of 1.5 million.
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I don't disagree, but I do think it should be pointed out that San Diego is also adjacent to Tijuana which has a higher murder rate than any US city. You can't help but feel a bit of the drug trade violence that gets played out in most US cities happens a bit over the border. But none the less, SD is a very safe city by US standards.
I always thought the SD and TJ relationship is very similar to the Windsor and Detroit relationship. Only in the latter it's our side of the border that's the dangerous one.
You can't help but feel a bit of the drug trade violence that gets played out in most US cities happens a bit over the border. But none the less, SD is a very safe city by US standards.
Similar dynamic in El Paso/Juarez where El Paso has very low homicide numbers while Juarez is near TJ levels. Same in Brownsville/Matamoros.
One of the odd things about TJ is Zona Norte is one of the worst neighborhoods, and it ends right at the US border. A few hundred yards away is a standard US strip mall and suburban neighborhood.
Similar dynamic in El Paso/Juarez where El Paso has very low homicide numbers while Juarez is near TJ levels. Same in Brownsville/Matamoros.
One of the odd things about TJ is Zona Norte is one of the worst neighborhoods, and it ends right at the US border. A few hundred yards away is a standard US strip mall and suburban neighborhood.
Getting robbed in TJ (tourist and residence a like) for sure is a common occurrence, but by and large... random Americans are not going to get abducted or killed by a cartel because having the US government breathing down your neck extra hard is very bad for business.
Similar dynamic in El Paso/Juarez where El Paso has very low homicide numbers while Juarez is near TJ levels. Same in Brownsville/Matamoros.
One of the odd things about TJ is Zona Norte is one of the worst neighborhoods, and it ends right at the US border. A few hundred yards away is a standard US strip mall and suburban neighborhood.
I've heard stories that people living by the border on the US side had bullets hitting their windows from the Mexico side...
That's one of many reasons for the nickname "San Diokyo". It's very impressive for a city of 1.5 million.
I always thought the SD and TJ relationship is very similar to the Windsor and Detroit relationship. Only in the latter it's our side of the border that's the dangerous one.
The big difference between Mexico and United States violence is Mexico has a lot more cartel incidents, some of which occur in more brutal and disgusting ways that fit the cartel gang culture. Another thing is mass murder events in Mexico (and probably parts of Latin America) are more often associated with drugs, gangs and/or cartels. Mass murder events that occur in the United States are almost always domestic or random situations that could unfortunately happen anywhere.
Birmingham at 37 minus vehicular manslaughter
Any number for Jackson?
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