City with Two Downtowns? (largest, place, America, bigger)
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I will agree with you about including the medical center as a downtown business district. But I think someone isn't being honest with how they went about gathering their figures. The four million square feet from Rice University should not be included. The Veterans hospital is located too far away to be considered part of the Texas Medical Center though it should be included as part of the district. There is another hospital to the north on the other side of Herman Park that would not be part of what is considered The Texas Medical Center urban core. If you are talking the old Texas Medical Center as being the urban core of what you would consider a downtown, then what I am saying is true. If you are talking about a much larger district, well, that is including hospitals and "plant space" located a good ways away from the urban core. Whatever the case, the final number of the size of the actual Texas Medical Center, what you consider to be a downtown, have been fudged.
who are you refering to? i didn't give figures. And I would not say that the Veterans Hospital is far at all. The Med Center has pushed east passed Almeda and has joined the Binz/ Museum District to form a sorta business/residential skyline. Also the southern part did not develop with the medical center (there is a gap), but the two areas are quickly running into each other. Even further, HCC and A&M has research fascillities east of the medical center that is coming together. so when all 4 areas run into each other that place is going to be huge. Starting from 610 (close to Texas Womens Hospital) going north all the way to 59, then east past 288 and west past GreenBriar Street (with Hermann Park and Rice U as islands).
This is an awesome pic of the med center in the foreground and downtown in the background:
since this pic was taken more buildings have gone up between the two skylines just passed the park, Also there has been lots of construction just passed the bayou in the bottom right part of the picture, and some on the mid right part of the pic.
Here is uptown/galleria from Downtown:
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It could be argued that Boston has 2 downtowns: on near the Park Street Red Line stop ( the old Filene's, Jordan Marsh, etc), and another downtown near the Back Bay shopping plaza, about 1 mile away...
The Filene's area is quite dead at night, with the stores closing, while the Back Bay shopping plaza has restaurants, bars and movie theaters to keep things going..
Actually, Chicago's Downtown Area is divided up into five areas.
1)The Loop/financial district 2) River North/Magnificant Mile/Near Northside 3) South Loop 4) River East/Streeterville and 5) Near West Side/UIC/IL Medical District.
The thing about Chicago is, even though there may be separate districts, it all looks like one long dense skyline Vs. cities like Houston, LA, Dallas, & Atlanta which have many distinct skylines a good distance away from downtown itself.
NYC is much like Chicago in that regard. There's just no way to distinguish (from the ground at least) where one district ends & the other begins.
Im most impressed with Atlanta's Buckhead .Its more like a real downtown It has condo towers ,shopping and lots of office buildings. I would almost say its healthier than downtown Atlanta lol, but realy its larger than lots of major cities based on total office,retail, and residential downtown buckhead. Here in Seattle we have a Suburb like that but its not in Seattle thats why Im impressed with Atlanta .
I would just put NY in a class by itself as a mega city no other city in usa can touch it. The whole city is very urban even the areas with out highrise is midrise.
Im most impressed with Atlanta's Buckhead .Its more like a real downtown It has condo towers ,shopping and lots of office buildings. I would almost say its healthier than downtown Atlanta lol, but realy its larger than lots of major cities based on total office,retail, and residential downtown buckhead. Here in Seattle we have a Suburb like that but its not in Seattle thats why Im impressed with Atlanta .
Buckhead is sorta like a smaller Galleria/Uptown Houston. In Uptown Houston you can find upscale shopping, dining, apartments (low income, middle class, & luxury), condos, high rises, single family homes, CVS's, adult video stores, churches, schools, & liquor stores all mixed together.
No zoning in Houston makes for some really quirky areas.
"Texas Medical Center is the largest medical center in the world with one of the highest densities of clinical facilities for patient care, basic science, and translational research.[1] Located in the Southeast Houston district of Houston, the center contains 49 medicine-related institutions, including 13 hospitals and two specialty institutions, two medical schools, four nursing schools, and schools of dentistry, public health, pharmacy, and other health-related practices. All 49 institutions are not-for-profit."
So are there any other hospitals IN Houston or are they all simply clustered in one area? Because I'm sure if you placed all the hospitals in many American cities within the same district, it would rival the Texas Medical Center.
Atlanta, for example, has the huge cluster of hospitals / clinics / research facilities at Emory University adjacent to the CDC; the mammoth Grady Health Care System downtown; Atlanta Medical Center (level 1 trauma center) just east of downtown in the Old 4th Ward; the Emory Crawford Long facilities in Midtown, the Piedmont Health Care hospitals in Buckhead; and the trio of hospitals that make up the Medical Center complex on the North MARTA line -- Northside, St. Josephs and Childrens Healthcare.
And these are just the facilities in the city -- it doesn't even begin to include all the huge medical centers out in the suburbs, including the VA Medical Center, DeKalb Medical Center, Gwinnett Medical Center, North Fulton Medical Center or Kennestone Health Care hospitals in Cobb County, etc.
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So are there any other hospitals IN Houston or are they all simply clustered in one area? Because I'm sure if you placed all the hospitals in many American cities within the same district, it would rival the Texas Medical Center.
Contrary to belief, Houston has other Medical "centers" also. But on City Data only the largest one gets talked about. Of course its got other medical areas. For example they are building a massive Medical Centeresque environment on I-10 in Memorial. Then there is Memorial Herman Center on US 59, and then there are quite a few others.
Let me get three visual examples of other ones that are far away from TMC:
The Center off Katy Freeway:
This is what it looked like when they completed one of the Towers:
This is what it will look like when they complete the other towers by summer (also note some of the towers are missing from this):
^^ This one has a lot of low rise 4 story buildings around it that are medical hospitals and facilities. So no its not just one or two towers, its more like a clustered area, and is rapidly growing (and getting taller) especially as they add more and more towers. So far they have two build already and are in the process of a third then a fourth tower, and they have multiple low rise (4-6 story) buildings all around there that are either hospital facilities or doctors offices and whatnot.
Memorial Hermann of Southwest:
There isn't one full picture of the whole thing so here are two parts-
The right side:
The Left Side:
Memorial Hermann Center at Memorial City (large area in Houston):
And thats all I want to post for now, but there are plenty more than just that. Most of Houston's hospitals aren't located in the Medical Center, and the idea everyone has if "we put it all in one place we'd be bigger" applies to Houston also, if it put all of its other ones in the same place it would be even bigger than it is now. Much much bigger than it is now, by far.
There are a lot of other ones, and if we go by Metro, then there's a hell lot of other ones too. Basically every suburb has a large collection of hospitals, some even have a defined corridor/district for multiple hospitals (4+) to be in one designated place. Houston the city has more hospitals in sporadic locations, it has one massive Medical Center, and several other smaller Medical Districts, the Metro Area has multiple medical districts and hospitals in sporadic locations as well.
Haha hope that answers some stuff up at least! And I like that Emory Crawford Long Hospital, especially because it seems to be near one of the tallest buildings in Atlanta.
"Texas Medical Center is the largest medical center in the world with one of the highest densities of clinical facilities for patient care, basic science, and translational research.[1] Located in the Southeast Houston district of Houston, the center contains 49 medicine-related institutions, including 13 hospitals and two specialty institutions, two medical schools, four nursing schools, and schools of dentistry, public health, pharmacy, and other health-related practices. All 49 institutions are not-for-profit."
So are there any other hospitals IN Houston or are they all simply clustered in one area? Because I'm sure if you placed all the hospitals in many American cities within the same district, it would rival the Texas Medical Center.
See this is the misconception that title gives Houston.
There are in fact many other medical districts all over the city besides the famous TMC most people only see, read, & hear about.
Memorial City on the west side going towards Katy has a booming medical center area with several new tall towers, the tallest being around 500 ft.
Downtown even has a couple of big hospitals.
SW Houston on 59.
Sugar Land & The Woodlands have their own medical centers.
NW Houston on 249 @ 1960 has a large hospital.
Its a network all over the city really.
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