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Old 05-23-2018, 10:31 PM
 
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As a Baltimoron, I can tell you that locals see Philadelphia as a place with relatively few problems. In fact, when I point out the many of the two cities' demographics look surprisingly similar, people simply don't believe it. But with Baltimore's per capita murder rate several times higher that Philadelphia's, no other stat really counts.

Still, I don't understand the constant comparison of Baltimore with Camden by Philadelphians. Incomes in Baltimore are almost double Camden's (and 10% higher than Philadelphia's.) Based on relative prosperity alone, Baltimore has to be a very different kind of place than Camden.
That's because the demographics are NOT similar. Baltimore's demographics are similar to Memphis.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Well, Camden is a ghetto next to a big core city..Baltimore is a big core city that has a lot of ghettos. It's a different thing. I kinda view Camden as being like Gary, IN or East St. Louis, IL - primarily because they're all dumps that are independent jurisdictions across a state line from their core cities. So you got all the negatives of urban living without any of the positives.
It’s time to research Camden in 2018 rather than relying an old narrative. Just this spring, Suburu opened its US headquarters there, bringing about 550 new jobs to the city. Last year, the Philadelphia 76ers opened the largest trading and office complex in the NBA in the city. American Water Co. is currently building a HQ there for its 700 employees. And as we sit here today, a real estate developer that is building an 18 story office tower on the Camden waterfront has just broken ground on an adjoining luxury apartment complex with 156 units: https://www.courierpostonline.com/st...nt/1001527001/.

Camden is no paradise and has some serious entrenched problems. But if you take your finger to the keyboard and use the google, you will see there is a master plan to help spur change. Current city institutions including Cooper Health Care and Rutgers Camden are heavily invested in seeing it come to fruition.

So tell me again how Camden is a dump, just like Gary and East St. Louis.
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Cleveland has improved a decent bit, but still has a long way to go IMO. It does remind me a bit of a smaller Philly at this point, like where Philly was in the late 1990s, starting its upward swing. Was just there about a year ago, and I was pleasantly surprised.
What was your perception before visiting and what was after your visit? Which spots did you visit during your trip? How is it similar to Philly?
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I think any city that once had a major decay problem has a hard time recovering its image. NYC did so quickly because of how mindbogglingly huge it is on the world stage. In fact, some people forget that NYC was a total hell-hole not too long ago.

For example, if Detroit ever truly recovers into something nice, it will have a massive uphill battle to fight for its image.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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It’s time to research Camden in 2018 rather than relying an old narrative. Just this spring, Suburu opened its US headquarters there, bringing about 550 new jobs to the city. Last year, the Philadelphia 76ers opened the largest trading and office complex in the NBA in the city. American Water Co. is currently building a HQ there for its 700 employees. And as we sit here today, a real estate developer that is building an 18 story office tower on the Camden waterfront has just broken ground on an adjoining luxury apartment complex with 156 units: https://www.courierpostonline.com/st...nt/1001527001/.

Camden is no paradise and has some serious entrenched problems. But if you take your finger to the keyboard and use the google, you will see there is a master plan to help spur change. Current city institutions including Cooper Health Care and Rutgers Camden are heavily invested in seeing it come to fruition.

So tell me again how Camden is a dump, just like Gary and East St. Louis.
Sort of a side note but your post reminded me: I like that the Sixers have a presence in each of the three major cities of the MSA, with the stadium/games in Philly, offices in Camden, and 87ers in Wilmington.
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Sort of a side note but your post reminded me: I like that the Sixers have a presence in each of the three major cities of the MSA, with the stadium/games in Philly, offices in Camden, and 87ers in Wilmington.
Failed to notice that until your post. A neat hat trick, huh?
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Old 05-27-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Just saw this today on Facebook captioned: Dont understand the low voter turnout in the poorest big city in America. What we can learn from low Pa. primary election turnout, and why it matters that just 1 in 6 Philly voters showed up
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:27 PM
 
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Just saw this today on Facebook captioned: Dont understand the low voter turnout in the poorest big city in America. What we can learn from low Pa. primary election turnout, and why it matters that just 1 in 6 Philly voters showed up
PA primaries always have low turnout except, maybe, in presidential years. One reason is because they are closed. People who are registered as something other than Dem or Rep can't vote in them.
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Old 05-29-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The only negative thing I know about Philly is that show "Parking Wars" where they tow your car!

Other than that can I have a Philly cheese steak from Genos and some Hall & Oates?

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Old 05-30-2018, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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The only negative thing I know about Philly is that show "Parking Wars" where they tow your car!

Other than that can I have a Philly cheese steak from Genos and some Hall & Oates?

I don't know what I can do about the cheesesteak (and I know Geno Vento, even), but here's your Hall and Oates:

"Fall in Philadelphia" - Hall and Oates | YouTube
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