Virginia Cities vs. North Carolina Cities (life, people, beach, metro)
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There are different types and levels of influence at work in contexts like these.
Lol no ****. This is the third time I'm asking, "what influences"? You've given me one influence, that it is the closest big city travel organization. I'm asking what else, because to me that is minuscule and not necessarily relevant, nor is it unique for Americans to gravitate towards the nearest large cities for pleasure and leisure. I'm asking because I don't see it, and neither of you have given a firm descriptive of DC influence in Raleigh. For the third time, I'm asking what "types and levels of influence" are "at work" in Raleigh from DC?
I think the point is that Raleigh and the Triangle are within DC's larger sphere of influence as far as a true big city goes. Of course the Triangle is big enough to offer more than enough amenities and stuff to do without folks having to go to DC on a regular basis and the region certainly has its own identity, but for a big city-type getaway, that's where most folks in the Triangle are more likely to head. It's the same thing with Charlotte and Atlanta.
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I have friends as far away as Bristol, TN/VA Roanoke, VA and north eastern TN. They associate much more with D.C. than they do Nashville or Charlotte. I start to question them about attractions in Nashville or places in Middle Tennessee and hear crickets, whereas if I ask them about D.C. they've been there several times. I'm not making an analogy about Nashville being a D.C., or anything like that, but I just find it interesting the influence D.C. has on their decisions when making plans for vacations, shopping, or even politics for that matter.
Lol no ****. This is the third time I'm asking, "what influences"? You've given me one influence, that it is the closest big city travel organization. I'm asking what else, because to me that is minuscule and not necessarily relevant, nor is it unique for Americans to gravitate towards the nearest large cities for pleasure and leisure. I'm asking because I don't see it, and neither of you have given a firm descriptive of DC influence in Raleigh. For the third time, I'm asking what "types and levels of influence" are "at work" in Raleigh from DC?
There's nothing else to it, and neither me or Jay ever claimed that was the case. Why are you reading something into our statements that aren't there? It's the same type of influence that a very large metro area exerts within its region--no more, no less. Nobody said it was unique or a "big deal" or anything like that so it's a bit baffling that you seem to be getting all bent out of shape over this.
And let's understand where this point was first (or more recently) made: in post #342 where someone said that NC and VA were both within DC's sphere of influence. He was then corrected on that point as Charlotte and western NC tends if within Atlanta's larger sphere of influence. It was never a major point that anyone was making so I'm not sure why you're looking at it for more than what it is.
Hampton Roads is most definitely within DC's sphere of influence.
Could you expound on this? Aside from DC being the nation's capital and epicenter for the military-industrial complex (which of course has a huge presence in the Tidewater as well) I'm having trouble seeing it.
This is admittedly anecdotal, but the only time I've ever heard DC people claim the Tidewater area as part of the "DMV" (I hate that acronym with a passion btw) was when that one female gymnast from VA Beach (I think?) was getting notice during one of the recent Olympics.
But when I said that, you kept saying "influence(s)"---plural. When I asked for examples, you regurgitate what I've already said, that there is nothing else besides its the nearest big city. If there is no further influence, you've made my case...
I'm not bent out of shape. I think I was clear in where I was coming from. When I questioned your position, because you insinuated some "other influence" was "at work", you come back and say the same thing I've been saying all along...
Could you expound on this? Aside from DC being the nation's capital and epicenter for the military-industrial complex (which of course has a huge presence in the Tidewater as well) I'm having trouble seeing it.
This is admittedly anecdotal, but the only time I've ever heard DC people claim the Tidewater area as part of the "DMV" (I hate that acronym with a passion btw) was when that one female gymnast from VA Beach (I think?) was getting notice during one of the recent Olympics.
Oh no, the Tidewater is definitely NOT part of the DMV. Heck, even Baltimore people take umbrage when you say it's part of the DMV. "DMV" really just refers to the DC MSA for all intents and purposes.
As for HR, the military-industrial complex is certainly a big part of it, as well as DC being the big city for the larger region where people will gravitate towards for big city amenities and as a popular relocation option.
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