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I think parts of bigger cities are actually as bad or worse than these cities being mentioned. Gary, E. STL, Camden, etc. aren't huge, population-wise, and have sky-high murder rates because of that. The scariest place I've ever seen was in Chicago, in the Cabrini Green and Henry Horner projects. Cleveland has some areas that remind me a bit of those places, and has to be in the running for "most ghetto" major U.S. city (top 10 at least).
When I was in my early twenties (1999) I drove through Camden New Jersey - at the time that place scared the bejeezus out of me, first ghetto I had ever laid eyes on.
Wow you saw your first ghetto when you were 20 something I saw my first when I was 5
I understand your point, but, just for reference, 40 years ago, a good portion of the city was destroyed, due to the 1967 Riots.
I lived in the Detroit area shortly after the riots. They had plenty of time to rebuild. They chose not too. But truly the northeast side was still very nice back then. Even after the riots. No excuse for what that city looks like today.
I think parts of bigger cities are actually as bad or worse than these cities being mentioned. Gary, E. STL, Camden, etc. aren't huge, population-wise, and have sky-high murder rates because of that. The scariest place I've ever seen was in Chicago, in the Cabrini Green and Henry Horner projects. Cleveland has some areas that remind me a bit of those places, and has to be in the running for "most ghetto" major U.S. city (top 10 at least).
Cabrini green (the projects - gone). Some really nice townhouses sit there now - with more development on the way. The graffatti covered church is still there off clybourne. It's really kinda neat I hope it stays. So replace it with Englewood for your list. - way worse
Something about Camden, NJ: the riverfront is actually solid, even if it falls off very quickly. Normally it's pretty easy to just go to the waterfront for a concert, but for some reason when going home, the police close off a bunch of roads to control the traffic. These are always the only way we know how to go home. So, we're usually stuck driving through the sketchiest parts of Camden at 2 in the morning. We do not stop at red lights when that happens.
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