Having Once Accepted Christ as Savior, You Cannot Lose Your Salvation (crucify, lordship)
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If you have made the most important decision you will ever make in your life; the decision to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation, then rest assured that you can never for any reason, lose your salvation. Just as you did nothing to earn salvation, neither can you do anything to maintain your salvation. It is God who guarantees your eternal security, not you or your efforts. Not only is it blasphemous to think that you can do something that would cause you to lose your eternal life, but it is an unnecessary burden to carry around with you. One simple nonmeritorious act of faith in Christ secures your relationship with God forever. With that in mind, I present this link which explains the principle which underlies eternal security. Please read and understand.
I agree with DNick: that the OP is a dangerous doctrine.
While it is true that absolutely nothing can snatch away salvation from a born-again believer, it is still possible for a believer themselves to throw away his/her own salvation...to fall away from the faith. If one falls away from the faith, then it is impossible to renew them to repentance. This (IMO) implies one who, for whatever reason, rebels against God...does not want to repent...spends their entire life in rebellion...who does not want to come back to the Lord...
If this scenario were not possible, then the following scripture of dire warning would not be in the Bible:
Hebrews 6:
4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
If you have made the most important decision you will ever make in your life; the decision to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation, then rest assured that you can never for any reason, lose your salvation. Just as you did nothing to earn salvation, neither can you do anything to maintain your salvation. It is God who guarantees your eternal security, not you or your efforts. Not only is it blasphemous to think that you can do something that would cause you to lose your eternal life, but it is an unnecessary burden to carry around with you. One simple nonmeritorious act of faith in Christ secures your relationship with God forever. With that in mind, I present this link which explains the principle which underlies eternal security. Please read and understand.
I should not have used the word 'Accepted' in the title, as it implies the meaning of inviting Christ into your heart for salvation, which is blasphemous. The spiritually dead unbeliever is not in a position to invite Christ anywhere. The concept of inviting Christ into the heart for salvation, is works and is therefore contrary to grace, and results in not being saved. The issue is exactly what the Bible says it is. ''Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.'' Acts 16:31.
Revelation 3:20 is Not a salvation passage. ''Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with Me.'', is addressed to believers and is about turning back toward God in response to divine discipline. God knocks at the door through divine discipline. And if the believer responds to the discipline by naming his sins,he is once again restored to fellowship with God and is filled with the Holy Spirit. And if he once again puts the Lord first in his life through consistant intake of the Word of God, then he regains spiritual momentum in his spiritual life.
I agree with DNick: that the OP is a dangerous doctrine.
While it is true that absolutely nothing can snatch away salvation from a born-again believer, it is still possible for a believer themselves to throw away his/her own salvation...to fall away from the faith. If one falls away from the faith, then it is impossible to renew them to repentance. This (IMO) implies one who, for whatever reason, rebels against God...does not want to repent...spends their entire life in rebellion...who does not want to come back to the Lord...
If this scenario were not possible, then the following scripture of dire warning would not be in the Bible:
Hebrews 6:
4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Bud
Hebrews 6:4-6 is a widely misunderstood passage. One must really start with verse 11 of chapter 5 and read on into chapter 6. This is not about losing your salvation. It has to do with believers who had been making spiritual progress by means of learning Bible doctrine, who had been pressing on toward spiritual maturity, but who had become sidetracked. They had for one reason or other, fallen away from the objective of marching toward the high ground of spiritual maturity. They had forgotten the more advanced doctrines they had been taught and were now in need of relearning what they had forgotten. They had become dull of hearing as it says in Heb.5:11, and were in need of again being taught elementary things concerning God. But the believers being addressed here had reverted to a salvation by works mentality as seen by Heb. 6:6 where they are again crucifiying Christ and putting Him to open shame, blatantly disregarding the fact that Christ died once for all, and that His sacrifice was complete (1 Peter 3:18). As long as they continued to do that it was impossible to for them to again make any spiritual progress.
Through misunderstanding of this passage there has been a lot of needless concern and trepidation on the part of those who think that salvation can be lost. Salvation can not be lost. It can not be walked away from.
Romans 8:38 says ''For I am convinced that neither death, not life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39) nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
We fall into the category of any other created thing. We can do nothing that will cause us to lose our salvation. We can not walk away from it. The believer can not separate himself from the love of God. Once you are saved, you are saved forever.
Here is a link that will provide some more detail concerning Hebrews 6:4-6.
It is a senseless and needless burden to carry around with you the fear that you can do anything to nullify the grace of God who keeps us saved by the once for all sacrifice of Christ. The only condition for salvation is to make a one time act of faith in Christ. To believe in Christ for salvation. Once Saved, you are Always Saved. We have eternal security.
Last edited by Michael Way; 11-23-2009 at 03:33 AM..
Anyone can say they are "saved". Belief and submission to the King are different than a magic prayer said once upon a time in church. But if you ask those who live like they know no King, "are you a Christian?", they will answer, "why yes I am. I said a prayer once."
So to preach the doctrine of "Once Saved, Always Saved" is dangerous because there are many that Jesus never knew, even though they thgouht they knew Jesus.
Though the doctrine is true, the delivery is false. Only Jesus Christ can declare a person "saved". Once you are saved, there is no turning back. But there are millions who believe they are saved because some layman preacher told them they were, or they read it on a board, like this.
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Originally Posted by Mike555
If you have made the most important decision you will ever make in your life; the decision to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation, then rest assured that you can never for any reason, lose your salvation. Just as you did nothing to earn salvation, neither can you do anything to maintain your salvation. It is God who guarantees your eternal security, not you or your efforts. Not only is it blasphemous to think that you can do something that would cause you to lose your eternal life, but it is an unnecessary burden to carry around with you. One simple nonmeritorious act of faith in Christ secures your relationship with God forever. With that in mind, I present this link which explains the principle which underlies eternal security. Please read and understand.
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HotinAZ ...Only Jesus Christ can declare a person "saved". Once you are saved, there is no turning back. But there are millions who believe they are saved because some layman preacher told them they were, or they read it on a board, like this.
Anyone can say they are "saved". Belief and submission to the King are different than a magic prayer said once upon a time in church. But if you ask those who live like they know no King, "are you a Christian?", they will answer, "why yes I am. I said a prayer once."
So to preach the doctrine of "Once Saved, Always Saved" is dangerous because there are many that Jesus never knew, even though they thgouht they knew Jesus.
Though the doctrine is true, the delivery is false. Only Jesus Christ can declare a person "saved". Once you are saved, there is no turning back. But there are millions who believe they are saved because some layman preacher told them they were, or they read it on a board, like this.
The issue is that those who are saved are in fact saved and cannot lose their salvation. There are many who profess to be Christian, but are not. The one's who think they are saved but are not are the ones who do everything except to simply believe in Christ for salvation. They are the ones who have added works to their belief. Or who have never actually believed at all, but assume they are saved because they live a good clean moral life.
The Bible makes it absolutely clear that one act of faith in Christ saves you. That act of faith means that you realize your need for salvation and that you are depending on Christ for your salvation. It means that you have understood that Christ has paid the penalty for your sins by His substitutionary spiritual death on the Cross, that He died and was resurrected, and now by acknowledging that to God the Father, you are saved by that recognition.
1 John 5:13 states, ''These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.
It is not belief and submission to Christ that saves you. It is belief alone that secures your salvation. Adding submission to your belief is called Lordship salvation and is works. It is a heresy. You do not make Christ Lord. He Is Lord. Lordship salvation again is works, and adding works to your faith nullifies the faith, and you are not saved. It is faith alone in Christ alone that saves.
Submitting to the Lord AFTER salvation is a completely different issue then believing in Christ FOR salvation. First comes salvation,which is dependent on a one time act of faith in Christ. Then after salvation, if a person wants to grow up spiritually to the point of maturity, then he must make many decisions to learn and apply the word of God to his life. That is picking up your cross and following Jesus.
When a pastor/preacher asks people in the congregation to say the "sinner's prayer" . . . . and then tell them that if they believed this prayer, and what it meant, that they now have eternal savalation . . . Then the preacher says, raise your hand all who said the prayer, so we can see now has entrance to heaven????? I find this repulsive.
Does the one, true gospel tell us that with one moment of faith, we will be eternally saved or does it tell us that we must believe and continue in that faith to the end and that, if we do not, the potential to fall is a clear and present danger? Satan & MANY preachers...have duped multitudes upon multitudes into believing that one moment of faith is all they’ll ever need. Believe once, he tells them, and “Ye shall not surely die.” Please do not fall for the same lie that old serpent has used from the beginning.
Faith is a gift, but we must continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling . . .
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