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Praise God!!! Isaiah, this is one of the most well written posts concerning the Rapture related to scripture I have ever seen!!!
I had the thought recently to do a thread exactly like this, but you have saved me the trouble!! It's awesome!! I am so excited that there are people who understand that God will not allow His saints to suffer through this horrible tribulation to come.
Do not pay attention to negativity, because I can feel the presence of God in this thread and you are following HIS direction.
And just to share my personal thoughts and feelings and what I have been doing........I have been cleaning my house from top to bottom, changing my sheets and washing ALL of my clothes, getting rid of things and giving them to Salvation Army for others to use, and getting rid of old papers or things that contain highly personal information. I have felt led to do all of things for one reason.
That's how close it is, brothers and sisters. Get your affairs in order!!!! Come, Lord Jesus!!! Amen!
NorthSouth: Many, many, many others have done what you are planning to do and encouraging others to do. But nothing happened. You praise Isaiah 54:17 for a "great" post that is full of verses taken out of context and completely manipulated to say what he wants them to say.
Many like you cry "the coming of the Lord is at hand." Yet, when James said that very thing and you read that very thing in James 5:8, you do not believe him! If the Lord's coming was at hand in James' day, how can it be close in ours?
The Lord's coming is not close, brothers and sisters! It is behind us--far behind us. Jesus said He was coming in that first-century generation. He came in A. D. 70. The apostles said He was coming in THEIR lifetimes. He came in A. D. 70! Let us not foolishly look up for a rapture that is not coming and concentrate on the tasks for which the Lord has put us here. Preach the Word and be ready always to give an answer for the hope that is in you!
NorthSouth: Many, many, many others have done what you are planning to do and encouraging others to do. But nothing happened. You praise Isaiah 54:17 for a "great" post that is full of verses taken out of context and completely manipulated to say what he wants them to say.
Many like you cry "the coming of the Lord is at hand." Yet, when James said that very thing and you read that very thing in James 5:8, you do not believe him! If the Lord's coming was at hand in James' day, how can it be close in ours?
The Lord's coming is not close, brothers and sisters! It is behind us--far behind us. Jesus said He was coming in that first-century generation. He came in A. D. 70. The apostles said He was coming in THEIR lifetimes. He came in A. D. 70! Let us not foolishly look up for a rapture that is not coming and concentrate on the tasks for which the Lord has put us here. Preach the Word and be ready always to give an answer for the hope that is in you!
The Born Again(New Creatures) who Rapture will be Caught up into the clouds with Jesus Christ, and those Left Behind will Experience The Wrath, Tribulation(Fire)
Psalm 105:15
Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Delivered, Saved Now with King Jesus Christ, and From(out of) The Tribulation(Wrath) to come.
(even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come)
Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, (*we shall be saved from wrath through him)
1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven,whom he raised from the dead,even (*Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come)
1 Thessalonians 5:9-11
For God hath not appointed us to wrath*) but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
God Reserves Wrath For His Enemies
Job 21:30
That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
Psalms 11:6
Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
Psalm 21:9
Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
Psalm 79:6
Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.
Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
Isaiah 13:13
Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
*Interesting to know the furnace was also heated seven times more Daniel 3:19, and Isaiah 30:26 shares the light of the sun shall be sevenfold.
Isaiah 30:26
(Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun)
(and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold)
(as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound)
Ezekiel 20:47
And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree(the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein)
Zechariah 14:12
And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Malachi 4:1
(For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven) and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and (the day that cometh shall burn them up) saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
*The Tribulation after the rapture is a time of great Wrath(Fire) as shared in 2 Peter 3:3-7, and 2 Peter 3:10-12. The Sealed 144,000 in the Tribulation can be seen as Shadrach, Meshack, and Abednego who were not harmed in the Fire.
*Notice: in the Tribulation (Heat) as shared in Revelation 7:16 They shall hunger no more, (neither thirst any more) (neither shall the sun light on them, nor any (heat) The Tribulation Saints who get saved in the Tribulation) Also the scripture Revelation 16:9 Speaks of extreme Heat, Men were scorched with great heat, The Title Global Warming is a man made Title etc(it's much more than people using to much hair spray etc)
The Global WARNING 2 Peter 3:3-7, and 2 Peter 3:10-12
Almighty God rescued Noah, and his family(The Righteous) and then destroyed the face of the Earth with water as shared in Luke 17:26-27 and now (The Righteous) will be rescued (Raptured) before the Tribulation, Wrath, and the face of the Earth is destroyed by fire...
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever
Isaiah 26:20-21
(Rapture)
Come,my people,enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee hide thyself as it were for a little moment until the indignation be overpast.
(Tribulation)
For,behold,the LORD cometh out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity, the earth also shall disclose her blood,and shall no more cover her slain.
We call it Prophecy Ushered Forth! The elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10-12
This prophetic truth spoken by a prophet named Nahum is breathtaking!
Nahum 1:2
God is jealous,and the LORD revengeth;the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies"
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There will be many Wars, Earthquakes, with Famine, Pestilence, and Volcanoes, and Falling Stars, Sun Heat etc.
Also Tidal waves, Super storms, and flooding but the face of the World will be destroyed by Wrath, Tribulation(Fire) As you can see in 2 Peter 3:3-7
The Wrath begins to accelerate in revelation 6(the seals)us chosen new creatures Rapture revelation 4:1
*As you can see in Revelation 6:15-17many attempt to hide in caves(Dens)In the Rocks of the Mountains etc.From the Wrath of the Lamb(Jesus Christ) and perhaps many will attempt to hide from Wormwood etc. In Revelation 8:1-11
For the record people can't hide from Almighty God!
Revelation 6:15-17
"And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hidthemselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
(7 Angels given Trumpets) As the Trumpets are blown we see Wrath, and Judgment. Revelation 8:1-11
Revelation 6:15-17 many attempt to hide in caves(Dens) In the Rocks of the Mountains etc.
From the Wrath of the Lamb(Jesus Christ)
In the Caves, Dens, Forts of the Earth
Isaiah 2:19
And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
Isaiah 2:21
To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
Ezekiel 33:27
Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD, As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.
Hebrews 11:38
(Of whom the world was not worthy) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
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Revelation 3:3
(Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard) and hold fast, and repent.
If therefore thou shalt not (watch) I will come on thee as a thief* and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Revelation 16:15
Behold, *I come as a thief. (Blessed) is he that (watcheth) and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
1 Thessalonians 5:4
(4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, *that that day should overtake you as a thief.)
Isaiah 54:17, have you studied the contexts of ALL of these verses which you have posted here? You have ripped them out of their contexts in order to formulate a theology which they did not intend!
I am trying to be kind here, but this is shameful "exegesis." This is how errors occurs--refusing to study a passage in its historical setting, giving no regard for the audience relevance, and pasting together passages that do not belong together and which oftentimes do not even address the same teaching!
Please, brothers and sisters in Christ, I implore you to not so callously handle the Word of God.
Let us post only those verses and passages which we have thoroughly studied for ourselves!
If you are not well studied on the presence of God throughout the entire Old Testament you probably did.
Joshua 10
14There was no day like that before it or after it, when the LORD listened to the voice of a man; for (O)the LORD fought for Israel. 15Then Joshua and all Israel with him returned to the camp to Gilgal.
If you are not well studied on the presence of God throughout the entire Old Testament you probably did.
Joshua 10
14There was no day like that before it or after it, when the LORD listened to the voice of a man; for (O)the LORD fought for Israel. 15Then Joshua and all Israel with him returned to the camp to Gilgal.
There are specific references when Jesus spoke that is obvious to anyone knowing the prophets such as coming in the clouds(judgment) or disturbances in the sun, stars and moon(the covenant status of Israel). He also consistently used agents to do his will.
Ezekiel 30
10'Thus says the Lord GOD,
"(M)I will also make the hordes of Egypt cease
By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
again nothing to do with the NT which has yet to pass.
Which was written after Jesus.
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Originally Posted by gwynedd1
Hi renriq02,
There are specific references when Jesus spoke that is obvious to anyone knowing the prophets such as coming in the clouds(judgment) or disturbances in the sun, stars and moon(the covenant status of Israel). He also consistently used agents to do his will.
Ezekiel 30
10'Thus says the Lord GOD,
"(M)I will also make the hordes of Egypt cease
By the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
We're talking about the 'rapture' which the Apostles wrote about which was after Jesus was crucified, rose from the dead, and now sitting on the right hand of God
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Originally Posted by gwynedd1
What does this have to do with the presence that Jesus said he would make himself manifest? In the clouds is very specific to the prophets.
Praise God!!! Isaiah, this is one of the most well written posts concerning the Rapture related to scripture I have ever seen!!!
I had the thought recently to do a thread exactly like this, but you have saved me the trouble!! It's awesome!! I am so excited that there are people who understand that God will not allow His saints to suffer through this horrible tribulation to come.
Do not pay attention to negativity, because I can feel the presence of God in this thread and you are following HIS direction.
And just to share my personal thoughts and feelings and what I have been doing........I have been cleaning my house from top to bottom, changing my sheets and washing ALL of my clothes, getting rid of things and giving them to Salvation Army for others to use, and getting rid of old papers or things that contain highly personal information. I have felt led to do all of things for one reason.
That's how close it is, brothers and sisters. Get your affairs in order!!!! Come, Lord Jesus!!! Amen!
Northsouth, I feel his presence here, too. And I've had the same urges you have had to clean things up, although the only thing we really need to clean up good is our souls....
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