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DOTL----- You know I agree with the visions you have reported. I am fully supportive of all true Christians leaving the USA as soon as possible because GOD wants to destroy it.
But GOD does not want to destroy His children! So He wants us to get out.
It's not just a matter of being destroyed by the attack of the beast (which will be used as an element of GOD's wrath), but also the church must leave the ultra sinfulness of the secular society.
Any way, you've done right to post the holy visions. It will help those who hear the voice of the Good Shepard.
Any Christian who wants to leave America, send me a message and let's compare notes and possibly work together.
In the event the coming attack is nuclear (I consider it to be a prominent possibility), go to www.ki4u.com for a professional education on how to survive a nuclear attack. The owner of that company is a professional who does business with the government and the private sector and he is sure that a nuclear attack is inevitable.
He recommends that people prepare now for the attack. But I say all Christians should leave America and also follow some very simple practices so as to be prepared for worldwide radiation fallout. It's easier than one might think.
Again---- you've done right to make this matter of the holy visions known!
There are safe zones in America.
Isa 55:13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign [that] shall not be cut off.
Zec 1:11 And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
There is only one place in the world that a Myrtle tree grows with the Fir.
That place is Oregon.
Isa 55:13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign [that] shall not be cut off.
Zec 1:11 And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
There is only one place in the world that a Myrtle tree grows with the Fir.
That place is Oregon.
godspeed,
freedom
It is interesting that Oregon is the only place in the world where a Myrtle tree grows with the fir.
However, I can't agree that Oregon would be a safe haven during the coming attack, or any state or territory of the US.
I believe it possible that a large number will survive the initial attack, but many of those will soon die after the attack. It's not a pretty picture and is not intended to be.
May the LORD lead each of His children to the right decision.
If the attack is nuclear, radiation fallout could be a worldwide problem.
JESUS said, "Except those days be shortened, no flesh would be saved."
I can't prove the attack will be nuclear, but certainly would consider it foolish not to be prepared for that possibility.
The only place in the US where the local government has an organized nuclear hazard plan in place is Madison County, Alabama (Huntsville).
The federal government has disbanded its civil defense program for protection against nuclear attack. North Korea and Iran are moving quickly to build the bomb. I heard one expert say that North Korea could have the bomb in 3 months and that they have missiles which can reach California. And of course that's not even taking into account the nuclear super powers who are, frankly, pissed at the US (Russia and China). These people hate America with a passion. And of course there are the more than one hundred non-aligned nations, led by the President of Iran, whose passion is to defeat the USA.
A few weeks ago, two Russian long range bombers, landed in Venezuela.
Latin America has few US friends. Many in Latin America support Marxism.
The US government is not handling the current crisis responsibly. If the coming attack is nuclear or simply imposed by some other thermal device(s), US citizens will simply be on their own. There is no civil defense plan in place for the aftermath of a major attack.
I suggest we find higher ground before the event. Where ever we go will not be a picnic. But at least we stand a better chance for survival.
Best wishes to all who seek the LORD!
Last edited by joedrsaved; 10-03-2008 at 07:36 PM..
DOTL----- You know I agree with the visions you have reported. I am fully supportive of all true Christians leaving the USA as soon as possible because GOD wants to destroy it.
But GOD does not want to destroy His children! So He wants us to get out.
It's not just a matter of being destroyed by the attack of the beast (which will be used as an element of GOD's wrath), but also the church must leave the ultra sinfulness of the secular society.
Any way, you've done right to post the holy visions. It will help those who hear the voice of the Good Shepard.
Any Christian who wants to leave America, send me a message and let's compare notes and possibly work together.
In the event the coming attack is nuclear (I consider it to be a prominent possibility), go to www.ki4u.com for a professional education on how to survive a nuclear attack. The owner of that company is a professional who does business with the government and the private sector and he is sure that a nuclear attack is inevitable.
He recommends that people prepare now for the attack. But I say all Christians should leave America and also follow some very simple practices so as to be prepared for worldwide radiation fallout. It's easier than one might think.
Again---- you've done right to make this matter of the holy visions known!
Ahhh, there you are!!! I remembered a poster speaking about leaving America in other threads, but I could not for the life of me remember who. Thank you VERY much, Joedrsaved. It was a real struggle to decide what to do, but ultimately God directed me.
Tomorrow I will take a look at the link you provided, but I'm so tired right now I can hardly see straight. My son tied up the computer all day and night, so this is the first chance I've had to look at the board. It is so refreshing and encouraging to see other Christians taking these last days seriously, and wanting to face reality and discuss the urgency of our circumstances.
God bless your soul, Joedrsaved!! I hope to speak with you more about what your feelings and ideas are concerning certain things.
Isa 55:13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign [that] shall not be cut off.
Zec 1:11 And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
There is only one place in the world that a Myrtle tree grows with the Fir.
That place is Oregon.
godspeed,
freedom
That is VERY interesting, Freedom. I did not know that. So, what's it like there is Oregon?
That is VERY interesting, Freedom. I did not know that. So, what's it like there is Oregon?
Incredible, 4 true seasons, and a lot of nice people. No military targets, and lots of farm land.
The FEMA assessment rates it as the safest area in the US from nuclear targets and fallout. The trade winds keep everything in the upper atmosphere.
Incredible, 4 true seasons, and a lot of nice people. No military targets, and lots of farm land.
The FEMA assessment rates it as the safest area in the US from nuclear targets and fallout. The trade winds keep everything in the upper atmosphere.
I've had some visions in the past few weeks, and I'm stumped on what to do about them. I'm not sure why I'm being shown these things and whether or not I need to share them. So I'm going to take a poll, and if the majority wants to hear about them, then I'll post them.
Here's the thing....they are not good.
I'd really like to hear what my fellow Christians think about this, and if these visions are just for me or is God telling me to share them?
I've NEVER had visions before, and there's some scriptures in the Bible that keeps coming to mind.
Acts 2:17-18
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophecy."
I could just put it all out there and not ask, but I am really interested in how others feel about this sort of thing and what you would do if you started having visions or dreams. Prophecy?
The bottom line is, do they come from God? God never does anything without first revealing to His people His warnings. I have been telling people for years that America is in trouble. This I have understood from the Scriptures. Yet I know that others have been saying such things because God has given them visions of the future. It may be that God has given you such a vision. If that is the case, feel free to share it with others, because by doing that you may be able to warn christians and non christians alike that God is getting ready to move in this world.
It is interesting that Oregon is the only place in the world where a Myrtle tree grows with the fir.
However, I can't agree that Oregon would be a safe haven during the coming attack, or any state or territory of the US.
I believe it possible that a large number will survive the initial attack, but many of those will soon die after the attack. It's not a pretty picture and is not intended to be.
May the LORD lead each of His children to the right decision.
If the attack is nuclear, radiation fallout could be a worldwide problem.
JESUS said, "Except those days be shortened, no flesh would be saved."
I can't prove the attack will be nuclear, but certainly would consider it foolish not to be prepared for that possibility.
The only place in the US where the local government has an organized nuclear hazard plan in place is Madison County, Alabama (Huntsville).
The federal government has disbanded its civil defense program for protection against nuclear attack. North Korea and Iran are moving quickly to build the bomb. I heard one expert say that North Korea could have the bomb in 3 months and that they have missiles which can reach California. And of course that's not even taking into account the nuclear super powers who are, frankly, pissed at the US (Russia and China). These people hate America with a passion. And of course there are the more than one hundred non-aligned nations, led by the President of Iran, whose passion is to defeat the USA.
A few weeks ago, two Russian long range bombers, landed in Venezuela.
Latin America has few US friends. Many in Latin America support Marxism.
The US government is not handling the current crisis responsibly. If the coming attack is nuclear or simply imposed by some other thermal device(s), US citizens will simply be on their own. There is no civil defense plan in place for the aftermath of a major attack.
I suggest we find higher ground before the event. Where ever we go will not be a picnic. But at least we stand a better chance for survival.
Best wishes to all who seek the LORD!
The Bible states that America will be attacked by northern nations, and Americas end will come in one hours time. Before the attack occurs America will be threatened with war for a period of two years. It will be in that two years that many people will leave her and return to the lands from where they came. The Bible states that even the nations around America will be destroyed. It also states that no one will ever be able to live in the land again after the attack. I believe all of this will happen, yet it will be a number of years before we will see this.
Hi Sherry, and welcome to CD!!! I understand COMPLETELY what you are saying. It was an extremely difficult decision for me trying to discern whether or not I should share the visions I had, which I did. But only after much torture and sleepless nights and fighting God on it. Ultimately, I had to put aside my flesh, and do what God was telling me to do.
I KNEW how it would be received here, and that was really what was holding me back. But if you read this entire thread, and the one where I told about my visions (I'll put a link to it here), and look past all of the pure meanness of some of the posts, you will see that there were people who were feeling just like me, and shared some of their dreams and visions. Sometimes it just takes one person willing to step out in faith, and then everyone else chimes in. There's a whole lot of support here between the Christians, and that's what has to be focused on.
My advice would be to write it all down. Put it on paper, as soon as you have a dream or vision. Some of it will be from God just for you personally as encouragement, some of it may be encouragement for another person that you may want to share, and some of it may be warnings. If you have it all written down, it's easier to go to God in prayer about it and ask Him what He would like for you to do with the information of specific dreams.
Not only is it easier to pray about it, you eventually will have a collection of your dreams on paper and might want to consider having it published!! Another thing that I would do is to write down when and how your dreams came true. It's all about having an account of HOW they came true, to prove that they indeed are prophetic dreams. There's a lot of people, even Christians, that will tell you that dreams and visions are no longer relevant is this day and age, and that everything prophetic died with the old prophets. I absolutely disagree with that, and there is proof in the fact that SO many people are experiencing this phenomena right now. There is scripture that PROVES that this will happen in the latter days, and here it is:
Joel 2:28-29
"And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days."
Acts 2:17-18
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophecy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy."
I mean, look at the similarity in these scriptures!! Joel is from the Old Testament, and Acts is from the New Testament!! It cannot get any clearer than this!! We are in the last days, and God is pouring out His Spirit on ALL people, not just Christians!!
Consider what you are experiencing is from God, and let Him guide you into what you should do with your dreams. He may just want to encourage you personally, but it sounds like to me that you could be experiencing things that the Lord may want you to share.
Be brave!!! Speak up if you feel God is leading you to do so!! Consider that God may be speaking to you, and write it down! Share it on CD and if you get ridiculed, just remember.....so did our precious Lord Jesus Christ!! God bless, Sherry.
Hi I just have a couple more questions about dreams. You say that you say you sometimes don't share those dreams. When I dream dreams from God it is as if a light bult has come on when I wake. Upon more study I have found that He also tells us that if we do not use what he has given us that he will take it away. Prophecy is for the edification of the church. My problem is still that this is going to create divisions in the church if I speak up. However, I get the feeling (and this wasn't part of the dreams) that God wants me to do this. He knows there will be scoffers, yet he doesn't say wait and do with what I give you as you like. He encourages you to share all prophecys given to you. ---if there is a passage that relates to not sharing in the Bible, I'd really like to know where it is. I know he told certain people not to share in the Bible. However in 1st Corinthins I do not find one word about not sharing. Just because we fear the things that will happen, I don't think that's our right since he has given the dreams. Just a thought. I am also a little confused on speaking in church. The Bible does say that a woman shall not speak out in church---does this mean that I shouldn't say these things in church and only use my outside life to do so?
god has spoken to me 3 times, 1 time audible. but the message was not for you it was for me.
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