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Old 06-21-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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I don't disagree with you there.

Post #344, did you understand it?
Of course you disagree since you believe the natural man has a freewill. But the natural mans will is a servant to sin.
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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That God created us for the sole purpose of giving us a chance to share in His happiness is a shocking thing. Why would He do that? It's only because He is Good and Generous. There's no other reason.
A chance ? So what determines if people share in Gods blessedness ? If God only gives us a chance !
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:49 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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As long as I can freely choose between chocolate or vanilla ice cream I'm good to go.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:03 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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As long as I can freely choose between chocolate or vanilla ice cream I'm good to go.
The choice for me is caramel vs vanilla
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:10 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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The choice for me is caramel vs vanilla
Thank God for free will.
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Old 06-21-2022, 02:08 PM
 
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Of course you disagree since you believe the natural man has a freewill. But the natural mans will is a servant to sin.
No; because I believe that man is given the ability to freely choose between Christ and his sins when the Holy Spirit draws him to Christ.

In this, he does not have a free choice when he is not being drawn to Christ (which means that I agree with you that he is bound by sin).

Being drawn to Christ means that he is able to make a free will decision either for or against Christ.

But being drawn to Christ does not guarantee that he will make a decision for Christ, is what I am saying.

So, drawing is not the exact same thing as regeneration.

Regeneration only occurs when a man receives Jesus as Saviour and Lord.

And while being drawn by Christ is a doorway to that, it is, again, no guarantee.
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Old 06-21-2022, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Mexico
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Know that you have freewill and God gave it to you since the dawn of time we all have it and also since Eden know that the devil had it and it was his downfall to atack God but man fell but not's it's fault but the enemy and justcie will be ours.
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Old 06-22-2022, 04:08 AM
 
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Know that you have freewill and God gave it to you since the dawn of time we all have it and also since Eden know that the devil had it and it was his downfall to atack God but man fell but not's it's fault but the enemy and justcie will be ours.
What you do not understand is that God controls your choices with the reasons he provides for you to base them on. “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13 (KJV 1900) **“LORD, thou wilt ordain Peace for us: For thou also hast wrought all our works in us.” Isaiah 26:12 (KJV 1900)**
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Old 06-22-2022, 04:26 AM
 
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What you do not understand is that God controls your choices with the reasons he provides for you to base them on. “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13 (KJV 1900) **“LORD, thou wilt ordain Peace for us: For thou also hast wrought all our works in us.” Isaiah 26:12 (KJV 1900)**
However, the reason on which you base your choices may be based on the choices of other people.

Is God responsible for the fall of Adam and Eve in the garden?

I don't think so. Adam and Eve made a choice.
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Old 06-22-2022, 04:37 AM
 
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However, the reason on which you base your choices may be based on the choices of other people.

Is God responsible for the fall of Adam and Eve in the garden?

I don't think so. Adam and Eve made a choice.
Did God lead Adam into temptation? Why pray "lead us not into temptation" if He does not? Having a person fall to his own lust is the person being tempted by his own lust, not God tempting him.
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