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Your church does not have the authority to do away with scripture,
That's correct. It was "my Church" that compiled, defined, and has preserved Scripture through the ages. It is your tradition that has literally done away with scripture by throwing out seven books and portions of more. By making this ridiculous accusation, you are actually projecting the errors of your own tradition.
All of the verses you cite are in the Catholic Bible just like in your Bible, so we have obviously not "done away with" them. They simply don't mean what you think they mean. It's as simple as that.
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Originally Posted by pneuma
Jesus IS the saviour of the WORLD. And I have asked you half a dozen time to explain how you or your church shows agreement with those scripture and so far all i have received is crickets.
"My Church" shows agreement with that by having taken the Gospel to the entire world. There is a Catholic Church in every country in the world, at least in an underground form if not openly such as in North Korea and Saudi Arabia.
Are all ones sins forgiven if Christ died for them ? Yes or no please? You never answered the yes or no. You seem to have given a why.
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
That's not how it works.
Christ died for all, yet not all sins are forgiven because many do not ask for forgiveness.
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Then your answer is obviously no, is that right ? Do you answer no to the question "Are all ones sins forgiven if Christ died for them ?"
My answer is that I can't possibly answer the question with a definitive "yes" or "no" because I cannot know the state of any particular individual's soul and whether they will end up in heaven or not.
Like I said; we know that Christ died for all, yet we also know that not everyone ends up in heaven.
My answer is that I can't possibly answer the question with a definitive "yes" or "no" because I cannot know the state of any particular individual's soul and whether they will end up in heaven or not.
Like I said; we know that Christ died for all, yet we also know that not everyone ends up in heaven.
Then its reasonably obvious, your answer is no ! Yet you are afraid to admit it
Then its reasonably obvious, your answer is no ! Yet you are afraid to admit it
Okay. Based on your posting history, my concern is that your question is not in good faith but is rather a "gotcha" question. Maybe I'm wrong to presume that, and if I am wrong I apologize.
What I do know is that forgiveness in Scripture is always presented as being conditional. For example, we must confess our sins and we must be willing to forgive others if we are to be forgiven. So in that sense, I suppose I can answer "no".
Okay. Based on your posting history, my concern is that your question is not in good faith but is rather a "gotcha" question. Maybe I'm wrong to presume that, and if I am wrong I apologize.
What I do know is that forgiveness in Scripture is always presented as being conditional. For example, we must confess our sins and we must be willing to forgive others if we are to be forgiven. So in that sense, I suppose I can answer "no".
Thats a serious issue when you deny the saving efficacy of Christs death, do you understand that ? Thats what saying no means.
My answer is that I can't possibly answer the question with a definitive "yes" or "no" because I cannot know the state of any particular individual's soul and whether they will end up in heaven or not.
Like I said; we know that Christ died for all, yet we also know that not everyone ends up in heaven.
That is because heaven and earth are relative to each other and humans are caught between both having part in both because of our composition
It is very hard to give a yes/no answer to these types of questions because there is a lot more going on than we individually see/understand/comprehend
Gen 2:7**And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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