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C'mon and say it. You believe God pleases Himself by torturing these souls (vast majority of mankind) forever because they are created by Satan , correct?
New Test and Old Test testify of the eternal punishment of the wicked Isa 33 14
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Very similar to NT Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
2 Thess 1:9
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
The universalist says, dont worry wicked and hypoctits, its all peace and safety !
Thats false teaching. Thats like saying one becomes a Sheep of Christ once they are found, and converted. The Sheep was a Sheep while lost Lk 15:4-6
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
The prodigal son while he was away from his father was both dead and lost (Luke 15:24,32).
That indicates he was for all practical purposes, unsaved; and if he would have died out in that situation, he would have died in a state of being both dead and lost.
The prodigal son while he was away from his father was both dead and lost (Luke 15:24,32).
That indicates he was for all practical purposes, unsaved; and if he would have died out in that situation, he would have died in a state of being both dead and lost.
Not at all, his story is the story of everyone, we wander off, become lost in a world that becomes our reality, then we come to remembrance from where we came from, come to our senses and return back to the Father. All in God's timing.
The prodigal son while he was away from his father was both dead and lost (Luke 15:24,32).
That indicates he was for all practical purposes, unsaved; and if he would have died out in that situation, he would have died in a state of being both dead and lost.
Not at all, his story is the story of everyone, we wander off, become lost in a world that becomes our reality, then we come to remembrance from where we came from, come to our senses and return back to the Father. All in God's timing.
The Father nevers give up?
Hmm, as jbf said, the son was lost, spiritually dead... yet he was still welcomed back!
The prodigal son while he was away from his father was both dead and lost (Luke 15:24,32).
That indicates he was for all practical purposes, unsaved; and if he would have died out in that situation, he would have died in a state of being both dead and lost.
The prodigal son proves my point and you wrong. He was always a son even while lost, same for the Sheep, while it was lost, it wasnt a lost goat, it was still a Sheep. The Elect are the same, while they are lost, they are still elect, in fact they are elected to Salvation, meaning conversion.
If a person will not turn from his sin and submit to the Will of God before death, why would he do so after death?
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