The Truth About Hell (testament, Jewish, Apostle, sunday)

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by JViello

The message is, that there is not eternal hell.

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[JViello]

Originally Posted by Oakback

Sounds wonderful

Most heresy's do.

[JViello]

Originally Posted by Birdy_56

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Jude 1:7

"...those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."

Eternal: aiōnios

1) without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be
2) without beginning
3) without end, never to cease, everlasting

Fire: pyr

1) fire

How much more clear can it be?

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by JViello

If hell is not eternal, why does it say ETERNAL FIRE and ETERNAL PUNISHMENT.

This is you mission for today (if you are willing to accept it), please tell us...

1. What does "prov aionios/aijwvnioß crovnoß" mean?

Prov= _______________?

aijwvnioß= Everlasting/Eternal/Without beginning or ending?

crovnoß= _______________?

[JViello]

The passage I quoted doesn't say that it says this:

http://www.ctchristians.com/personal02/forum/jude-17.gif (broken link)

I'm not going to chase your "of the ages" red herring. It's clearly stated.

Believe otherwise if you wish.

Blessings,

P.S. Do you speak Greek? Honest question and am expecting an honest answer...

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by JViello

The passage I quoted doesn't say that it says this:

http://www.ctchristians.com/personal02/forum/jude-17.gif (broken link)

I'm not going to chase your "of the ages" red herring. It's clearly stated.

Believe otherwise if you wish.

Yep: it is indeed "clearly" stated. And your question for today is very simple and clearly stated.

If aijwvnioß means everlasting or eternal (without beginning or ending) then what does prov aijwvnioß mean?

What does "prov aijwvnioß crovnoß" mean?

[JViello]

It's NOT IN THAT TEXT. What part don't you get?

DO YOU SPEAK GREEK?

Yes____

No____

I have this feeling you are using lexicons, commentaries and "concordances" to pass for knowing Greek.

[Alpha8207]

I have a question.

I've heard it mentioned that Hell in scripture was a Greek word "Gehenna" which was a trash dump on the outskirts of Jerusalem. That Jesus never meant the teaching to imply that Hell was eternal because He used this Gehenna as His example.

Is that true? Do I have that argument right?

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by Alpha8207

I have a question.

I've heard it mentioned that Hell in scripture was a Greek word "Gehenna" which was a trash dump on the outskirts of Jerusalem. That Jesus never meant the teaching to imply that Hell was eternal because He used this Gehenna as His example.

Is that true? Do I have that argument right?

You are partially correct, Alpha. There are four (4) words in Hebrew and Greek that are all translated as hell in the K.J.V. Those four words are sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartaroo.

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Number of times the Apostle Paul speaks of hell? (Eternal or otherwise)

Thirteen Epistles: References to hell= 0

Number of times the Apostle Luke mentions hell?

Twice in Acts (both in reference to Jesus Christ not being left in hell)

Because You will not leave my soul in hell/hades, neither will You suffer Your Holy One to suffer corruption. Acts 2:27

Please Note

Hell/hades and corruption are linked.

...He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that He had not been abondoned to the place of death (hades), neither did His flesh undergo decay.

Hades, the place of death, & decay of the flesh/body are linked together.

Number of times the Apostle James speaks of hell?

One (1) -in reference to the tongue.-

Number of times the Apostle John on Patmos speaks of hell?

Four (4)

Number of times St. John speaks of hell within his gospel?=

Zero

"I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

And the final chapter on Hell=

And death and hell were cast into the Lake of Pur (the Limne of Theos). This IS the second death.

[Alpha8207]

Thanks Birdy.

Are there any scriptures that speak of anything ever coming out of these places?

For instance, Gehenna, the trash dump, was a place of disposal. I can't imagine something being put into Gehenna for whatever reason and then ever coming out. I find this 'watering down' of Hell by saying it was only a trash dump to miss an obvious implication that what goes in, stays in.

Don't you?