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Old 11-18-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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Do you really believe that you sought after and found God ?. What do you do with the scripture that states that there are none that seeks after God ?, are you the exception ?.
Feel free to disagree. I care not.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Read the OP, and discover what we are talking about. The question is why the man buried it AGAIN after he had discovered it.


[i] The Bible teaches that those who seek, will find. This is what happend to the man in the parable. He discovered the treasure, and he understood it was very valuable, so he hid it again, and gave up everything so he could buy the field and have the treasure for eternity.
At the end of all the parables in chapter 13.... Jesus said, "A prophet is not with honor except in his own country and in his own house. Now He did not do mighty works there because of their unbelief." (Matt. 13:57-58)

The treasures in the parables are hidden from those who do not believe !! They will come up with all kinds of solutions, excuses, and arguments of what Jesus really meant and it will be through the flesh, carnal mind, which we know is enmity to God and His word. So we can see the carnal mind is trying to understand and explain Him in that mind set rather then through the Spirit in what Jesus was teaching the believing heart. amen !! This is why He spoke in parables to the crowds !!
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:33 AM
 
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At the end of all the parables in chapter 13.... Jesus said, "A prophet is not with honor except in his own country and in his own house. Now He did not do mighty works there because of their unbelief." (Matt. 13:57-58)

The treasures in the parables are hidden from those who do not believe !! They will come up with all kinds of solutions, excuses, and arguments of what Jesus really meant and it will be through the flesh, carnal mind, which we know is enmity to God and His word. So we can see the carnal mind is trying to understand and explain Him in that mind set rather then through the Spirit in what Jesus was teaching the believing heart. amen !! This is why He spoke in parables to the crowds !!

Perhaps you could point out the "carnality" of the views of those who you are in disagreement with on this thread?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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You would prefer, perhaps, that the man who purchased the field had removed the treasure
What makes you think I would have preferred him to remove it? Where do you get all these assumptions?

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(what I believe to be the Spirit/Kingdom and what you believe to be Jesus/the Good News) from the field (what I believe to be representative of all of us, and you believe to be representative of your heart)?
Kingdom of God, Jesus, Gospel etc are all a part of the treasure.

I think you are better off just talking about your own beliefs, because every time you have tried to define my beliefs, you have been wrong.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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At the end of all the parables in chapter 13.... Jesus said, "A prophet is not with honor except in his own country and in his own house. Now He did not do mighty works there because of their unbelief." (Matt. 13:57-58)

The treasures in the parables are hidden from those who do not believe !! They will come up with all kinds of solutions, excuses, and arguments of what Jesus really meant and it will be through the flesh, carnal mind, which we know is enmity to God and His word. So we can see the carnal mind is trying to understand and explain Him in that mind set rather then through the Spirit in what Jesus was teaching the believing heart. amen !! This is why He spoke in parables to the crowds !!
People can get very creative when trying to explain away things to fit their beliefs. There is another thread where people are trying to explain that sinners are not punished, but instead Jesus torments "disbelief" for eternity.

Yes, this is why He used parables.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Anyway...

Lego, I'm interested to hear your thoughts, since you posed the question.

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Matt 13:44 “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.


Why does he hide the kingdom once he has found it? Wouldn't he want to share it?

Or is it that most are not to receive it (yet)?

Thoughts?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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Does it make sense to you Finn that Jesus Christ found you ?

To me the man in the parable is obviously Jesus Christ, just like the fisherman in the following parable is Jesus Christ.

1 the scripture teaches He found us,
2 the scripture teaches we are the field,
3 the scripture teaches we were bought with a price,
4 it goes without saying that if He bought us at such great price, we are highly valuable (treasure).
Finn.....Can you explain how this is getting very creative ?.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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People can get very creative when trying to explain away things to fit their beliefs. There is another thread where people are trying to explain that sinners are not punished, but instead Jesus torments "disbelief" for eternity.

Yes, this is why He used parables.
Amen....
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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In the primary sense it is Jesus who finds us but also do not forget it is Jesus who said, "Seek and you shall find." It is of His drawing by Love, His ability given by that invitation to seek, that enables us to want to know more of His treasures that causes us to seek. Love is a two way street, a relationship.

Yes indeed He found us first. He found us but also we find more of Him because we seek with the Love He as given us even as He sought the fellowship of the Father and found the relationship of a two way communication based on love, each for the other. Hid within and out of veiw is the "treasure" until we put away the sense distractions of the world and withdraw into the "Secret Place of the Most High God." through prayer, meditation and the like.

Jesus often times went alone to pray and set the example for us as to how to make that which is hid manifest to the world. More Peace, Love, Joy and wisdom will follow fellowship with God and as He said, "You will be rewarded openly and you will be enabled to let your light so shine so as to give light to all those in the house," even as Jesus did!"
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