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Old 07-19-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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Paradise is the afterlife, it ain't the Zoe kingdom.

There are three kingdoms and all have life but abundant life is much more different than life. There are two words to describe the word life Jesus uses and one of them is the Zoe life, not just salvation but abundant life with reward.
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:37 PM
 
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Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Thoughts?


They must have the right Jesus to start with. There is more than one being taught in this system of things.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Thoughts?

Let's look at this scripture backwards to learn about calling on the name of the Lord.

That is, since we have such a hard time understanding it forwards.



18. Listen to words.

17. Faith comes by hearing the word of God

16. Obey the gospel.

15. Preach the gospel.

14. Call on Him.

13. Call on the Lord and be saved.

12. There is no distinction between Jew and Greek.

11. Believe

10. Believe and confess with your mouth unto salvation.

9. Confess and believe God has raised Him from the dead.

8. Preach the word of faith.



Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 ¶ For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
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Old 07-22-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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Let's look at this scripture backwards to learn about calling on the name of the Lord.

That is, since we have such a hard time understanding it forwards.



18. Listen to words.

17. Faith comes by hearing the word of God

16. Obey the gospel.

15. Preach the gospel.

14. Call on Him.

13. Call on the Lord and be saved.

12. There is no distinction between Jew and Greek.

11. Believe

10. Believe and confess with your mouth unto salvation.

9. Confess and believe God has raised Him from the dead.

8. Preach the word of faith.



Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 ¶ For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
There are 3 kingdoms and we are assured that Moses was given the design of those 3 kingdoms of heaven in the temple design itself and so Moses was instructed to be exact because it teaches what the after life is.

Jesus was Always speaking of the higher Zoe kingdom of abundant life, and Jesus himself spoke about the differences between the least in the kingdom and the greatest in the kingdom, respectively the court of Gentiles without the temple and the Holy of Holies


Between the least and the greatest is the holy place.


There is no difference between Jew and Gentile because of the fact that the first Gentiles converted to the same religion as Jews and were ADOPTED AND GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL TO STAND AS EPHRAIM, THE CO HEIR OF JUDAH.

THERE ARE NO GENTILES N THE COVENANT, THERE ARE ONLY ADOPTED GENTILES WHO BECAME ISRAEL.



The court of darkness awaits Christian's because they have no entrance into the holy place because they refuse adoption, they refuse to be grafted.

The first Christian's were added to the commonwealth of Israel, but today's Christian's stand in the Court of darkness.
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:21 AM
 
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There are 3 kingdoms and we are assured that Moses was given the design of those 3 kingdoms of heaven in the temple design itself and so Moses was instructed to be exact because it teaches what the after life is.

Jesus was Always speaking of the higher Zoe kingdom of abundant life, and Jesus himself spoke about the differences between the least in the kingdom and the greatest in the kingdom, respectively the court of Gentiles without the temple and the Holy of Holies


Between the least and the greatest is the holy place.


There is no difference between Jew and Gentile because of the fact that the first Gentiles converted to the same religion as Jews and were ADOPTED AND GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL TO STAND AS EPHRAIM, THE CO HEIR OF JUDAH.

THERE ARE NO GENTILES N THE COVENANT, THERE ARE ONLY ADOPTED GENTILES WHO BECAME ISRAEL.



The court of darkness awaits Christian's because they have no entrance into the holy place because they refuse adoption, they refuse to be grafted.

The first Christian's were added to the commonwealth of Israel, but today's Christian's stand in the Court of darkness.

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Old 07-23-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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There are 3 kingdoms and we are assured that Moses was given the design of those 3 kingdoms of heaven in the temple design itself and so Moses was instructed to be exact because it teaches what the after life is.

Jesus was Always speaking of the higher Zoe kingdom of abundant life, and Jesus himself spoke about the differences between the least in the kingdom and the greatest in the kingdom, respectively the court of Gentiles without the temple and the Holy of Holies


Between the least and the greatest is the holy place.


There is no difference between Jew and Gentile because of the fact that the first Gentiles converted to the same religion as Jews and were ADOPTED AND GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL TO STAND AS EPHRAIM, THE CO HEIR OF JUDAH.

THERE ARE NO GENTILES N THE COVENANT, THERE ARE ONLY ADOPTED GENTILES WHO BECAME ISRAEL.



The court of darkness awaits Christian's because they have no entrance into the holy place because they refuse adoption, they refuse to be grafted.

The first Christian's were added to the commonwealth of Israel, but today's Christian's stand in the Court of darkness.
It seems God deals with Jew and Gentile the same according to (Gal.3:26-28)

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Notice -

vs 23 is speaking about those under the OT Law (Jews).

vs 25 no longer are they under the OT Law (Jews)

vs 26 All (everyone - Jew / Gentile) are now children of God by faith in Christ.

vs 27 As many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

vs 28 neither Jew or Greek... for ye are ALL one in Christ. (Jew / Gentile).

vs 29 Now both (Jew / Gentile) are heirs to the promise if ye be Christ's.


(Rom.10:4) put an end to the OT LAW SYSTEM.


Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth



All the saved are located in the church (kingdom) - (Acts 2:38,47) (Col.1:13)
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:06 PM
 
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Unless your a Jew, you are seriously mistaken to think you are under the covenant Jesus brought to Ephraim and Judah, those first Christian's joined Israel, that ain't you.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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Unless your a Jew, you are seriously mistaken to think you are under the covenant Jesus brought to Ephraim and Judah, those first Christian's joined Israel, that ain't you.
Jews is a handpicked cultivated group to carry information of good consciousness to the rest of the world.
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:13 PM
 
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Ga 3:2 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:21 PM
 
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Jews is a handpicked cultivated group to carry information of good consciousness to the rest of the world.
In Scripture (Romans 2:28-29) since Pentecost it is No longer a Jew by fleshly descent, nor by nation.
Since the start of the Christian congregation at Pentecost one can be a ' spiritual Jew '.
Part of a 'spiritual nation' that is Not located on any map and has No borders nor boundaries - 1st Peter 2:9,5.

The information that is carried to the rest of the world is about God's kingdom coming - Daniel 2:44; Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8
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