why would anyone want to live in uptown? (Albany, Humboldt: versus, gardens)

[grapico]

Originally Posted by Aleking

I had posted in this thread, or one of the other million uptown threads a year or so ago, and was just dropping back through to say my experience has been positive enough to consider buying here. As someone with a modest income, the express bus service, proximity to the lake and other nice neighborhoods and ridiculously affordable housing stock has it pretty high on my list.

Well yeah, for an investor, uptown could make sense. For a renter, I'm not sure why anyone would choose to live there given better options elsewhere (referring to the rougher areas of uptown)

[MannheimMadman]

If it came down to not waiting to save more and live in uptown, or saving more to live in a nicer neighborhood, i'd save more. However, there are some somewhat nice streets that are close to Clark (dover and beacon).

[Bardot]

^I actually think the Berwyn/Edgewater community has more promise. I'm not sure how cheap it is to buy in Andersonville, but that neighborhood is already really successful.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by Bardot

^I actually think the Berwyn/Edgewater community has more promise. I'm not sure how cheap it is to buy in Andersonville, but that neighborhood is already really successful.

The lower section of Andersonville which was recently taken over has A LOT of opportunity due to it not being completely gentrified like the core of Andersonville is. I'm talking about Clark near Winnemac and such.

The area of Andersonville I'm in (or will be this weekend when my lease starts is pretty much your average gentrified price (450-500K for a SFH.)

There are some pretty good condo deals to be had, though.

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by Bardot

^I actually think the Berwyn/Edgewater community has more promise. I'm not sure how cheap it is to buy in Andersonville, but that neighborhood is already really successful.

So a force field will go around Uptown and it wont do well
while Edgewater which shows more promise will do awesome?

Hunh? Its all getting better. Some areas are obviously further along than others. But the whole northside by the lake is improving.

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by MannheimMadman

The lower section of Andersonville which was recently taken over has A LOT of opportunity due to it not being completely gentrified like the core of Andersonville is. I'm talking about Clark near Winnemac and such.

The area of Andersonville I'm in (or will be this weekend when my lease starts is pretty much your average gentrified price (450-500K for a SFH.)

There are some pretty good condo deals to be had, though.

Nope. You are in Uptown, call it Andersonville if you like, which really is just a name for a business district one that overlaps two neigborhoods.
But really talking super super specific clouds the issue, especially with the whole andersonville moniker, atleast wrigleyville is contained within lakeview is it not? I dont think its jumped north of Irving Park yet.

Ok to be completely correct that part is andersonville terrace.
I dont think there is a specific map for andersonville

I do agree with you about Winnemac, even by Broadway, my wife lived there, Winnemac there from Broadway to Glenwood is one of the longest blocks in the city without interruption by a street, atleast for residential.
And that is a very nice Block, its once you cross Broadway that things get dicey. But its closer to the Lake and EL as well, so it has the location going for it, its the concentrated poverty there that is holding it back.

That does have to be dealt with, like Lawrence House, beautiful art deco building that is a building of despair and a magnet for badness.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by xavier xerxes

So a force field will go around Uptown and it wont do well
while Edgewater which shows more promise will do awesome?

Hunh? Its all getting better. Some areas are obviously further along than others. But the whole northside by the lake is improving.

In the case of the newer parts of Andersonville, it was due to spillover heading south on Clark. Had the recession not put a screeching halt on everything, I think it would have reached Lawrence by now. Actually, I'm super curious about those condos on Lawrence on Clark. That had potential to gentrify the part of Uptown from Lawrence to Foster and Clark east to probably Broadway.

The core of Uptown is probably a long way off to be gentrified. Hopefully the new alderman will take action to help it along. But, if you've been following that race, there are many groups kicking and screaming against gentrification. Couple that with SRO and meth clinics, and you'd be hard pressed to see anything really leave the ground.

Albany Park also has two such pro-immigration/low income groups who are firmly in place making sure low income housing remains abundant.

I know you're a parrot for your "gentrification happens near el lines" line, but Albany Park has the Kimball, Kedzie and Francisco lines going for it. By your estimation, it should be ripe for gentrification, but alas, it will never happen with the neighborhood in its current form.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by xavier xerxes

Nope. You are in Uptown, call it Andersonville if you like, which really is just a name for a business district one that overlaps two neigborhoods.
But really talking super super specific clouds the issue, especially with the whole andersonville moniker, atleast wrigleyville is contained within lakeview is it not? I dont think its jumped north of Irving Park yet.

Ok to be completely correct that part is andersonville terrace.
I dont think there is a specific map for andersonville

I do agree with you about Winnemac, even by Broadway, my wife lived there, Winnemac there from Broadway to Glenwood is one of the longest blocks in the city without interruption by a street, atleast for residential.
And that is a very nice Block, its once you cross Broadway that things get dicey. But its closer to the Lake and EL as well, so it has the location going for it, its the concentrated poverty there that is holding it back.

That does have to be dealt with, like Lawrence House, beautiful art deco building that is a building of despair and a magnet for badness.

You're absolutely wrong.

http://www.andersonville.org/anderso...o/where-we-are

Just because it exists in the uptown community area doesn't mean much, really.

It's just like Ravenswood Manor being in the Albany Park community area. Obviously, it stands very separate from the rest.

And actually, parts of Ravenswood are in the Uptown community area, but definitely belong to the Ravenswood community area.

[Irishtom29]

Well for what's worth back in the late 1960s when I used to go to the Kinetic Playground at Clark and Lawrence I thought I was in Andersonville.

[jimmythegreek]

Clark and Lawrence is Uptown.