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[Cool Arrow]

Originally Posted by Bitey

The suspects they were instructed to stop pursuing were armed robbery suspects. What's more, the CWB article I cite provides a CPD audio transcript of the stop-pursuit order. But I guess the actual primary source isn't good enough for you if it's hosted on a secondary source you don't like.

Who instructed them to stop? Sounds like it was CPD themselves since there is no law stopping them from pursuit of felonies in progress.

[Bitey]

Originally Posted by Cool Arrow

Who instructed them to stop? Sounds like it was CPD themselves since there is no law stopping them from pursuit of felonies in progress.

It's called a policy directive, and it's 12 pages worth of frequently vague mumbo-jumbo presented as though they were clear directives. Who do you think wrote and enforces this policy -- the beat cops who do the chasing?

And when a suspect takes off, a cop has about two seconds to evaluate the situational fact pattern against 12 pages of conditional gobbledygook theoretically stored in his head before deciding whether to give chase. If he does, he then has to keep evaluating the changing dynamics of a spontaneously unfolding chase against that same 12 pages worth of vague directives to decide whether to continue or break off said pursuit. All of which will then be Monday-Morning-Quarterbacked by a supervisor -- or worse, by COPA -- after the fact.

Care to guess how often that officer's desire to keep his job and his pension will influence the outcome of those calculations?

[Bitey]

[jmgg]

My God, do I wish that I could rep. you again.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by fusillirob1983

While Brandon Johnson won some precincts in Lakeview and North Center, all of Lincoln Square/Edgewater/Andersonville, it doesn't seem like that difference makes up the 26k vote win that he had. Brandon Johnson won one precinct in Lincoln Park on its western edge and Vallas won the rest.

https://interactive.wbez.org/chicago...nct-map/#mayor

Yeah, the narrative that Johnson won because of the north side is flawed.

He won because of racial voting on the south and west side, the same places that kept Kimm Foxx in charge.

The irony is that those will be the areas hardest hit by crime increases. I don't say that idly, stealing someone's car that is affluent is annoying. Stealing a poor persons car can be life altering. Not to mention shootings etc.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by jmgg

My God, do I wish that I could rep. you again.

Yeah and when people stop getting responses...they stop calling.

This is why you may see "decreases" in some types of crime because people won't waste their time reporting.

Same goes for non-prosecutions, dropped prosecutions etc.

[Bitey]

Originally Posted by Bitey

As Blue politics creeps out of the city and into the surrounding area, the breakdown of civil society follows right on its heels.

A few examples from just the last 5 weeks:

14-year-old boy killed in shooting after high school football game in Country Club Hills

Palatine shooting leaves 2 teens dead

Palatine shooting leaves 15-year-old boy critically wounded (He has since died -- that leaves three teens shot dead in Palatine in 4 weeks)

2 teens shot in Hoffman Estates; 3 people in custody

Highwood teen shot, killed in Highland Park

[Cool Arrow]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Yeah and when people stop getting responses...they stop calling.

This is why you may see "decreases" in some types of crime because people won't waste their time reporting.

Same goes for non-prosecutions, dropped prosecutions etc.

I grew up in the hood in the 80s during the Daley era. We realized the city didn't care about us. Perfect recent example was of a Pilsen resident who was stabbed to death in the back by a suburban marine who was literally twice his size and CPS detrmined it was self defense. I'm sure machine defenders will twist it and justify it any way they can. This is why people in the hood never call the cops. They take justice into their own hands. In the hood they don't have faith in the justice system. They handle it among themselves. Like it or not it is what it is. Until we restore faith in the justice system this is the way it is. Two tears in a bucket.

[Bitey]

Originally Posted by Cool Arrow

I grew up in the hood in the 80s during the Daley era. We realized the city didn't care about us. Perfect recent example was of a Pilsen resident who was stabbed to death in the back by a suburban marine who was literally twice his size and CPS detrmined it was self defense. I'm sure machine defenders will twist it and justify it any way they can. This is why people in the hood never call the cops. They take justice into their own hands. In the hood they don't have faith in the justice system. They handle it among themselves. Like it or not it is what it is. Until we restore faith in the justice system this is the way it is. Two tears in a bucket.

Uhm, no, the "CPS" (or the CPD, or the DA's office for that matter) did not determine it was self-defense; the stabber (Thomas Tansey) went on trial for murder. Oh yeah, speaking of "twist it any way you can," a) the guy was not "stabbed in the back," and b) you forgot to mention the part where it was 2-on-1, which could go some way toward explaining his acquittal at trial.

Also, I don't want to hear about how there's "no faith in the justice system" in the 'hood as long as the "no snitch" culture is alive and well. We shouldn't humor such laments from people who make it a point to subvert the very system they claim to have no faith in.

[Master Jay]

Hello all. Wishing you well.

Like I said, crimes move in "trends."

Now I see in places like Milwaukee and Chicago, robbing postal workers is increasing.

I just read an incident of this from the East Garfield Park neighborhood, recently.

Stay safe. Be well.