CPD and NYPD exchange words

[divakat]

Originally Posted by Bird4Prez

Last I checked the Bronx and more specifially the South Bronx is still part of NYC, so you can probably shave at least 1.3 million off that number. You chose the income numbers as a comparison......How about we look at median house/condo values according to this website. Chicago's median property value is 261,000 and New York's is 517,000. NYC rent average is $200 more than in Chicago. The NYC cost of living is 161 and Chicago's is 108. So it costs a ton more to live in New York and therefore you must be someone who has more disposible income (read wealthier).

NYC has rent control. There are a lot of lower income people living in Manhattan who rent. A LOT of people fall into this category.

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by Bird4Prez

First off comparing cities is always a foolish thing, since every place is obviously so unique. My main point with all of these rabid New Yorkers was that money obviously impacts crime rates. And not just in NYC.......compare Boston's crime rate to Cleveland's. Compare the San Francisco murder rates to Kansas City. And to your "skewed" point, New York's ridiculous cost of living forces a lot of people (a number of whom may have gone on to committ crimes) to look elsewhere. Those people who are grinding to make 100,000 and have no money left over are most likely college educated and employed with a decent job. Chances are they aren't a criminal threat.

New York has almost the exact same poverty rate as Chicago. There are almost 2 million people living under the poverty level in New York. The murder rate difference between the two cities is not because everybody in New York is rich. You sound like you've never set foot in New York.