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Old 08-31-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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I was raised in the Midwest and though my parents were open minded and not ostensibly racial biased, I learned in my adult years just how bigoted that region was -- and I suspect though things have improved, it probably isn't free of that ugliness, yet. The northern states were not as blatant in their prejudices, and it isn't politically correct now, so it stays suppressed.

Bottom line, you cannot change people's thinking. That is something they have to do themselves. The important thing is that you don't let their thinking make you change your open, loving, respectful treatment of people, regardless of race.

Best wishes in finding a soul mate with whom you find no need to look further.

 
Old 08-31-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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I was raised in the Midwest and though my parents were open minded and not ostensibly racial biased, I learned in my adult years just how bigoted that region was -- and I suspect though things have improved, it probably isn't free of that ugliness, yet. The northern states were not as blatant in their prejudices, and it isn't politically correct now, so it stays suppressed.

Bottom line, you cannot change people's thinking. That is something they have to do themselves. The important thing is that you don't let their thinking make you change your open, loving, respectful treatment of people, regardless of race.

Best wishes in finding a soul mate with whom you find no need to look further.
Cool story.
 
Old 08-31-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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Sorry about your experiences. From what I've seen, most women have a specific idea in their head of who they'd want to be with and if you don't fit that description then they are hesitant to open up with you. It goes for race, but also a lot of other things, too. Maybe it's like this in other cities, but it makes sense that it'd be more prominent in Chicago, since women are aware that they have a much larger pool of potential mates to pull from. My advice to you is actually to go to bars/clubs with more of a black crowd, since the non-black women may be there specifically because they're interested in black men (I know girls that do this).
 
Old 08-31-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids
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Im not really complaining though just dating beautiful BLK girls
for the next two years is not the worst thing in the world LOL
but I was wondering did anybody have any tips or explanation for this.
No offense intended, but perhaps it's your casual view of dating and not your race that doesn't interest the women you have met thus far. By saying that you are dating black girls for the next two years (until you move elsewhere) you seem to indicate that you have no plans on meeting your "soul mate" in the near future. Just my two cents.
 
Old 08-31-2011, 08:16 PM
 
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I lived in chicago for 14 yrs and I am a blk male,and compared to other places.
It is hard to get a white girl that does not frequent predominantly blk social events.
Or the white girls who are heavy into the hip hop scene. The BM/WF couples in chicagoi probably have the WF
of that social fabric. Im assuming the OP is an professional, and if he lives on the northside,he is probably encountering more professional/yuppy type white girls,who do not have an affinity for AA culture. They probably just assumes that he is so culturally different,that they dont give hi a shot. Dallas has been the second city for the highest number of interracial marriages for awhile. The reason I think this because dallas has a huge AA and mexican middleclass,and they also have a white underclass

Dallas is also more intergrated,so people tend to treat you by your class more so then your race.
In regards to latinas in chicago you have more 1st generation latinas. Texas you have more 2nd or 3rd generation. These girls are more americanized and less reclusive. The same comparison goes for asian girls on the westcoast compared to the ones in chicago.

Tips for interracial dating in chicago. Bucktown,Hyde park, Uptown,Rogers parks, Edge water and maybe WP(because hipster are usually more cultural accepting of others then yuppies.
are the best hoods to have some successs with white woman. Rogers park,Logansquare,humbodlt park
if you want a latina(aim for a rican girls mexican chicks even up north are difficult)

The southside its nearly impossible racial tensions in bridgeport and southwest chicago are just to high.
You might have some success in the south suburbs preferable the southeast(riveroaks over orland mall)

Your best bet for success are the western and northern burbs(aurora,napperville,boilingbrook
and schaumburg). These places have more people who are open to interracial dating. You might even find an asian chick in boilingbrook(wouldnt count on it).The latinas in the burbs are alot more freindly
to AA dudes then the city,not texas freindly though. Evanston and oakpark should also be tried as well.

White girls in LP are impossible,in Lakeview you might have some success if you are cosigned
by other white people,but its difficult. Downtown night clubs you should have a decent shot
but no place in chitown will give you the frequency of interracial hookups as socal when it comes to
non-blk girls who dont have an affinity for hiphop urban culture.

Last edited by ptug101; 08-31-2011 at 08:29 PM..
 
Old 08-31-2011, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Hey man be genuine and you'll have absolutely no problem meeting women. Chicago women hear game all day from their commute, office, to after work so be understanding if they appear to be on guard.

Also drop 10 pounds and keep a fresh cut!
 
Old 08-31-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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I think there's a lot of truth in the things you have said. That being said, I think the younger generations are starting to open up a bit more so that it is slowly becoming more like the Cali / Texas (metro) mentalities that you are describing. Might take another generation or so for Chicago to fully catch up.

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Originally Posted by ptug101 View Post
I lived in chicago for 14 yrs and I am a blk male,and compared to other places.
It is hard to get a white girl that does not frequent predominantly blk social events.
Or the white girls who are heavy into the hip hop scene. The BM/WF couples in chicagoi probably have the WF
of that social fabric. Im assuming the OP is an professional, and if he lives on the northside,he is probably encountering more professional/yuppy type white girls,who do not have an affinity for AA culture. They probably just assumes that he is so culturally different,that they dont give hi a shot. Dallas has been the second city for the highest number of interracial marriages for awhile. The reason I think this because dallas has a huge AA and mexican middleclass,and they also have a white underclass

Dallas is also more intergrated,so people tend to treat you by your class more so then your race.
In regards to latinas in chicago you have more 1st generation latinas. Texas you have more 2nd or 3rd generation. These girls are more americanized and less reclusive. The same comparison goes for asian girls on the westcoast compared to the ones in chicago.

Tips for interracial dating in chicago. Bucktown,Hyde park, Uptown,Rogers parks, Edge water and maybe WP(because hipster are usually more cultural accepting of others then yuppies.
are the best hoods to have some successs with white woman. Rogers park,Logansquare,humbodlt park
if you want a latina(aim for a rican girls mexican chicks even up north are difficult)

The southside its nearly impossible racial tensions in bridgeport and southwest chicago are just to high.
You might have some success in the south suburbs preferable the southeast(riveroaks over orland mall)

Your best bet for success are the western and northern burbs(aurora,napperville,boilingbrook
and schaumburg). These places have more people who are open to interracial dating. You might even find an asian chick in boilingbrook(wouldnt count on it).The latinas in the burbs are alot more freindly
to AA dudes then the city,not texas freindly though. Evanston and oakpark should also be tried as well.

White girls in LP are impossible,in Lakeview you might have some success if you are cosigned
by other white people,but its difficult. Downtown night clubs you should have a decent shot
but no place in chitown will give you the frequency of interracial hookups as socal when it comes to
non-blk girls who dont have an affinity for hiphop urban culture.
 
Old 08-31-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ptug101 View Post
I lived in chicago for 14 yrs and I am a blk male,and compared to other places.
It is hard to get a white girl that does not frequent predominantly blk social events.
Or the white girls who are heavy into the hip hop scene. The BM/WF couples in chicagoi probably have the WF
of that social fabric. Im assuming the OP is an professional, and if he lives on the northside,he is probably encountering more professional/yuppy type white girls,who do not have an affinity for AA culture. They probably just assumes that he is so culturally different,that they dont give hi a shot. Dallas has been the second city for the highest number of interracial marriages for awhile. The reason I think this because dallas has a huge AA and mexican middleclass,and they also have a white underclass

Dallas is also more intergrated,so people tend to treat you by your class more so then your race.
In regards to latinas in chicago you have more 1st generation latinas. Texas you have more 2nd or 3rd generation. These girls are more americanized and less reclusive. The same comparison goes for asian girls on the westcoast compared to the ones in chicago.

Tips for interracial dating in chicago. Bucktown,Hyde park, Uptown,Rogers parks, Edge water and maybe WP(because hipster are usually more cultural accepting of others then yuppies.
are the best hoods to have some successs with white woman. Rogers park,Logansquare,humbodlt park
if you want a latina(aim for a rican girls mexican chicks even up north are difficult)

The southside its nearly impossible racial tensions in bridgeport and southwest chicago are just to high.
You might have some success in the south suburbs preferable the southeast(riveroaks over orland mall)

Your best bet for success are the western and northern burbs(aurora,napperville,boilingbrook
and schaumburg). These places have more people who are open to interracial dating. You might even find an asian chick in boilingbrook(wouldnt count on it).The latinas in the burbs are alot more freindly
to AA dudes then the city,not texas freindly though. Evanston and oakpark should also be tried as well.

White girls in LP are impossible,in Lakeview you might have some success if you are cosigned
by other white people,but its difficult. Downtown night clubs you should have a decent shot
but no place in chitown will give you the frequency of interracial hookups as socal when it comes to
non-blk girls who dont have an affinity for hiphop urban culture.
This right here is pretty much the truth!!!!! Great analysis!!!Another rule of thumb to follow is this: the less invested the women are in Chicago culture the better. In other words women who moved here from other cities and countries and arent sheep enough to be sucked into Chicago's "rules" and mindset the better your chances are. My GF is from Eastern Europe and lives on the NW Side and she thinks Chicagoans are ****in ridiculous. And she is 20 times more beautiful than the majority of the chicks here. In this city WASP's are the alpha group and every minority group is pretty much shamed and bullied into conforming to their rules. Black men have pretty much been outcasted, and blackballed (pun intended) in this city. Dont be fooled Chicago isnt really a progressive city as some would like you to believe, its a gigantic hick town with a progressive costume on.....every one outside of here knows this except for Chicagoans. The real gem of Chicago is the fact that it attracts people from OTHER cities, always remember that. Also if you ever encounter a caucasian person from the Northwest suburbs (Schaumburg, Rolling Meadows, etc) forgive them in advance...this group has some of the most sheltered, narrow minded, pompous individuals you will ever have the pleasure of meeting....most of them are clueless of any culture outside of their own and are extremely ignorant and intolerant...not all of course but I would say a great majority....and ironically people from this group make up a large percentage of Lincoln Park/Lakeview/Wrigleyville area. But if you do visit Lincoln Park hit up Tonic Room on the weekends, they play hip-hop and their are plenty of open minded women of all races who frequent there. I personally can not wait to leave this place....the racist vibe here is becoming too much to bear. If you want to visit a real progressive city you are gonna have to go to New York City...warning though the women are 45 times more prettier there and 60 times less stuck up then Chicago women, you may actually get laid.... A LOT!!
 
Old 08-31-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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This right here is pretty much the truth!!!!! Great analysis!!!Another rule of thumb to follow is this: the less invested the women are in Chicago culture the better. In other words women who moved here from other cities and countries and arent sheep enough to be sucked into Chicago's "rules" and mindset the better your chances are. My GF is from Eastern Europe and lives on the NW Side and she thinks Chicagoans are ****in ridiculous. And she is 20 times more beautiful than the majority of the chicks here. In this city WASP's are the alpha group and every minority group is pretty much shamed and bullied into conforming to their rules. Black men have pretty much been outcasted, and blackballed (pun intended) in this city. Dont be fooled Chicago isnt really a progressive city as some would like you to believe, its a gigantic hick town with a progressive costume on.....every one outside of here knows this except for Chicagoans. The real gem of Chicago is the fact that it attracts people from OTHER cities, always remember that. Also if you ever encounter a caucasian person from the Northwest suburbs (Schaumburg, Rolling Meadows, etc) forgive them in advance...this group has some of the most sheltered, narrow minded, pompous individuals you will ever have the pleasure of meeting....most of them are clueless of any culture outside of their own and are extremely ignorant and intolerant...not all of course but I would say a great majority....and ironically people from this group make up a large percentage of Lincoln Park/Lakeview/Wrigleyville area. But if you do visit Lincoln Park hit up Tonic Room on the weekends, they play hip-hop and their are plenty of open minded women of all races who frequent there. I personally can not wait to leave this place....the racist vibe here is becoming too much to bear. If you want to visit a real progressive city you are gonna have to go to New York City...warning though the women are 45 times more prettier there and 60 times less stuck up then Chicago women, you may actually get laid.... A LOT!!
For every "race" thread or for every "Chicago is boring thread" (read: it doesn't have much culture/I want mountains but I moved to the Midwest . . . poor me) I kinda expect someone to mention LA & NYC as a better alternative. Go figure.
 
Old 08-31-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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I lived in chicago for 14 yrs and I am a blk male,and compared to other places.
It is hard to get a white girl that does not frequent predominantly blk social events.
Or the white girls who are heavy into the hip hop scene. The BM/WF couples in chicagoi probably have the WF
of that social fabric.
This is true to an extent....its possible for black guys to pull white women in Chicago outside of the hip-hop realm, I know many black guys who do it. It all depends on your approach though and how acceptable you may be to her social group. In other words you have to have high social value to cancel out your race and money helps. Black guys who are eccentric, wealthy, athletes, high paying professionals (doctor, attorney, writers) and dress with class you shouldnt have any issues. If you show any signs of ghetto culture or anything remotely close......you can forget it!!LMAO
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