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Old 12-01-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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It would be wise to choose something other than AIDS as your comparison, joosoon. The majority of people weren't susceptible to that. Only three ways to contract that and breathing on someone wasn't one of them. Most people weren't afraid of it. This has people very fearful.

The comparison wasn't the virus, it was a reference to the route of transmission. When the mechanisms of how AIDS spread weren't clearly understood, there was a quite a bit of panic including the big question if one could be infected from a toilet seat.

 
Old 12-01-2020, 09:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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"These findings also highlight the value of blood donations as a source for conducting SARS-CoV-2 surveillance studies," they said.


Makes me wonder if donated blood is anonymized. If not, I wonder if the people whose sample showed antibodies would be contacted to do further testing. I thought I had read that the window for antigen testing was too small to be reliable for cases that old, but I'm guessing stored blood is different.
 
Old 12-01-2020, 10:56 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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The comparison wasn't the virus, it was a reference to the route of transmission. When the mechanisms of how AIDS spread weren't clearly understood, there was a quite a bit of panic including the big question if one could be infected from a toilet seat.
Okay, got it. Yes, I recall the whole contaminated toilet seat theory. Sure did give a boost to the healthcare products industry that supplied seat covers, though, didn't it?
 
Old 12-01-2020, 11:01 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Great one!
I tried. Honestly. I did. I tried not to watch it but it was like being sucked into a vortex.

 
Old 12-02-2020, 12:14 AM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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Source?

It doesn't make any sense that Newsom filed a lengthy appeal to the emergency act lawsuit and went crying to the courts to put the injunction on hold if he had some plan to lift it in December. So go ahead and post something credible to support this claim of yours, please.
Why do you waste my time on this?
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...ome-order.aspx

If you want to split hairs and attribute it to the health department, you know that order wouldn't have been enacted if he had opposed it and he of course announced it himself.
 
Old 12-02-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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"These findings also highlight the value of blood donations as a source for conducting SARS-CoV-2 surveillance studies," they said.

Makes me wonder if donated blood is anonymized. If not, I wonder if the people whose sample showed antibodies would be contacted to do further testing.
And since apparently people think it's so humorous to give fake names and numbers, contact tracing is most likely futile.
 
Old 12-02-2020, 07:33 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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I'm not at all sure that the increase in cases in SoCal is because "people are staying inside." It may be true elsewhere but we are not having what anyone would call winter weather...

So what is causing the increase in cases here; I don't think it's cold weather.
Could also be due to asymptomatic transmission.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article
 
Old 12-02-2020, 07:43 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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People are such freaking lemmings.

Newsom and SF mayor Breed go dine at the French Laundry. LA Supervisor Kuehl warns everyone about restaurants, votes to ban dining and immediately goes out to dine at a restaurant, Pelosi gets her hair done against restrictions and everyone else is supposed to obey?

If anyone thinks this is the first time these people have done this, they’re dumber than I thought. And to all of you that say two wrongs don’t make a right or we have to follow restrictions even if they don’t, you’re an idiot.

They make these rules, break them and laugh behind your back at how stupid you are. Most people aren’t going to follow these restrictions much longer. Time to start ignoring the politicians who couldn’t care less about the people.
Or .... time to start ignoring ignorant, anonymous armchair analysts / internet trolls.
 
Old 12-02-2020, 08:43 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Could also be due to asymptomatic transmission.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article
Why would that be any worse now than before?
 
Old 12-02-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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That's not the same thing as the color code scheme which is what I was talking about and even linked to a direct quote of Newsom explaining why there was no "green" level in it. There is no date on when that or the entire emergency act order will expire which is at the heart of the lawsuit (something you already admitted you don't pay attention to). So why do you waste time on these trivial things to deflect from all that?
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