Coronavirus (credit, live, price)

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Even SDSU with their phony date about when they can unmask isn't doing testing because no one is now catching it. They just refuse to admit they were wrong and will force the masks on students even though the teachers get a pass.


Instructional faculty, teaching assistants and interpreters who are fully up to date with their vaccinations can remove their facial coverings when teaching as long as students are masked in the classroom.


https://sacd.sdsu.edu/student-health...ral-prevention

What I wonder is who is pushing this still, especially since policies are so hit or miss at the post-secondary school level. Is it maybe an insurance or liability thing? I mean, who's going to sue over a covid outbreak at this point? Or rather, who's going to be able to successfully sue at this point? It's as if this is all a lot of CYA over nothing.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Well, that is the claim and to a degree it's true. I've somehow remained covid-free throughout all this, with weekly testing to confirm it. That's also in spite of countless close contact and exposure notices that the school district I work for diligently tracks. If I was going to get it, I'm pretty sure I would've by now considering those odds. That's not empirical data but it's a good case study, for me at least. My guess is the mechanics of susceptibility to the virus aren't as binary as vaccinated/unvaccinated. It's more multi-factor than that. And fwiw, the possibility of breakthrough cases was always on the table, even prior to development of the vaccines.

And when I finally, officially got it over Labor Day weekend, it was totally asymptomatic. I may have had it in February 2020 and I am twice vaxxed, twice boosted.

Originally Posted by joosoon

That all aside, I see it as a good thing regardless of the reason Canada presented, that they and other countries which imposed strict measures are scaling them back. The national vaccination rate in Canada isn't that much higher than it is here. Plus, I'm fairly confident that viruses don't respect international borders anyway.

I thought the virus checked in with Border Control and Customs </joking?

Originally Posted by joosoon

tl;dr --- The developed world is moving on from covid.

Thank G-d it has. You can only perpetuate a farce so long.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Well, that is the claim and to a degree it's true. I've somehow remained covid-free throughout all this, with weekly testing to confirm it. That's also in spite of countless close contact and exposure notices that the school district I work for diligently tracks. If I was going to get it, I'm pretty sure I would've by now considering those odds. That's not empirical data but it's a good case study, for me at least. My guess is the mechanics of susceptibility to the virus aren't as binary as vaccinated/unvaccinated. It's more multi-factor than that. And fwiw, the possibility of breakthrough cases was always on the table, even prior to development of the vaccines.



That all aside, I see it as a good thing regardless of the reason Canada presented, that they and other countries which imposed strict measures are scaling them back. The national vaccination rate in Canada isn't that much higher than it is here. Plus, I'm fairly confident that viruses don't respect international borders anyway.



tl;dr --- The developed world is moving on from covid.

The vaccine trials were conducted to make products look better than they are. For example, they excluded people who were likely to not get a good immune response. Now it's time to do a meta-study to see what works best for elderly people, for example. People who have been dutifully vaccinated and boosted and got the hoped-for immune response and didn't negate that by "just living life" as though the virus doesn't exist probably haven't gotten infected.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Thank G-d it has. You can only perpetuate a farce so long.

Who's "perpetuating a farce"?

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Who's "perpetuating a farce"?

Where do you want me to start?

[MechAndy]

Hi goodheathen,
Do you have any links that can confirm or talk about that they were trying to make the products look better than they are?
Thanks.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

Hi goodheathen,
Do you have any links that can confirm or talk about that they were trying to make the products look better than they are?
Thanks.

Of course I have no source to confirm that. But it's standard behavior by manufacturers and advertisers.

There was a long British Medical Journal opinion piece over a year ago that cast doubt on the quality of the vaccines, and it's not the only BMJ paper to question vaccine studies.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Where do you want me to start?

Where you live. Thoughts? https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus...vels-rise.html

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

The vaccine trials were conducted to make products look better than they are.

It was fairly clear from the clinical trials that the vaccines weren't perfect.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01092-3

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by joosoon

What I wonder is who is pushing this still, especially since policies are so hit or miss at the post-secondary school level. Is it maybe an insurance or liability thing? I mean, who's going to sue over a covid outbreak at this point? Or rather, who's going to be able to successfully sue at this point? It's as if this is all a lot of CYA over nothing.

The office of San Diego State President Adela de la Torre

Thinks he knows more than the cdc and Fauci.