Coronavirus (approval, educational, health)

[MechAndy]

The source is me,
I know kids that stayed home for 2 years that are not where they need to properly compete with others in the workforce which is becoming very global.
That needs to be cleaned up.
I also know people that took a financial hit and can’t afford to retire.
I also know people that now are having a harder time buying houses because the interest rates are climbing.
They are getting less for their hard earned dollar.
There are still a lot of empty storefronts in strip malls due to bad policies.
These items need to be cleaned up.

Jeesh,
Talk about people not understanding the real world .

It’s ok once the adults are back in charge things will get better .

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

It's malfeasance because manufacturers presented a product as quite good when they should have known and maybe had evidence pre-approval that it would not work more than slightly effectively for long. In a society that values honesty...

"For SARS-CoV-2, there are four main goals of vaccination: protection from acquisition of infection; prevention of transmission; protection from severe disease; and prevention of Long Covid. When vaccines were initially rolled out, the early high NAb titers following immunization led to hopes that the vaccines would largely block infection and transmission. However, two issues have emerged that question whether these goals are still achievable with current vaccines. The high NAb titers observed at peak immunity several weeks after messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccination wane rapidly and substantially, often within 4 to 6 months...

Additionally, SARS-CoV-2 variants such as Omicron show increased transmissibility and substantial escape from NAb responses, both of which reduce the ability of vaccine-induced NAbs to block infection..."

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.add2897

[goodheathen]

"For SARS-CoV-2, there are four main goals of vaccination: protection from acquisition of infection; prevention of transmission; protection from severe disease; and prevention of Long Covid. When vaccines were initially rolled out, the early high NAb titers following immunization led to hopes that the vaccines would largely block infection and transmission. However, two issues have emerged that question whether these goals are still achievable with current vaccines. The high NAb titers observed at peak immunity several weeks after messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccination wane rapidly and substantially, often within 4 to 6 months...

Additionally, SARS-CoV-2 variants such as Omicron show increased transmissibility and substantial escape from NAb responses, both of which reduce the ability of vaccine-induced NAbs to block infection..."

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.add2897

Your point?

Please answer the question - is it possible there was malfeasance by vaccine makers?

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

The source is me,
I know kids that stayed home for 2 years that are not where they need to properly compete with others in the workforce which is becoming very global.
That needs to be cleaned up.
I also know people that took a financial hit and can’t afford to retire.
I also know people that now are having a harder time buying houses because the interest rates are climbing.
They are getting less for their hard earned dollar.
There are still a lot of empty storefronts in strip malls due to bad policies.
These items need to be cleaned up.

Jeesh,
Talk about people not understanding the real world .

It’s ok once the adults are back in charge things will get better .

Most or all of that would have happened regardless of the government's type of response, because widespread severe disease disrupts economies. The point you and others are missing and refusing to see in economic publications is that cannot abate much during uncontrolled spread, even if the virus is less harmful to individuals.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Our Government caused this and it's much worse now. This was not even one year.


Nearly 100,000 establishments that temporarily shut down due to the pandemic are now out of business




https://fortune.com/2020/09/28/covid...t-down-closed/

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Nearly 100,000 establishments that temporarily shut down due to the pandemic are now out of business

How many would have shut own because the owners and employees were sick or dead from the virus? My younger son's primary care doc caught the virus and almost died, on a vent for weeks last year. He is still unable to work.

[MechAndy]

I wager less would have shut down and went bankrupt from illness.
Shutting them down for this long is what killed those businesses.
These businesses were not bankrupted because they were sick.
They went into bankruptcy due to bad policies.

It is just downright scary that there are people that still favor shutdowns.
It is sick actually.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

How many would have shut own because the owners and employees were sick or dead from the virus? My younger son's primary care doc caught the virus and almost died, on a vent for weeks last year. He is still unable to work.

What aboutism. What we know as FACT is what actually happened. We, as in the Govt, created this.

Maybe, might, perhaps, could are not metrics. We have actual data.

I work for a huge company. I know of no one reporting a family member that died FROM covid. Not "with" covid.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

How many would have shut own because the owners and employees were sick or dead from the virus? My younger son's primary care doc caught the virus and almost died, on a vent for weeks last year. He is still unable to work.

Yes, and probably more often businesses that shut down permanently had old owners who were nearing retirement anyway and nearly all businesses that went under due to finances already were having trouble. Some could've been propped up with more effective payments from the government, but some were doomed lockdown or not, even without a pandemic.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

How many would have shut own because the owners and employees were sick or dead from the virus? My younger son's primary care doc caught the virus and almost died, on a vent for weeks last year. He is still unable to work.

That's horrible. Hope he does improve in time. Odd how some doctors caught it and others didn't. I expected my doctor to catch the virus, being that he's in his mid 70's but he never did. I was shocked. Some do get sick while others don't. It's not fair to say that every business closed due to your reasons. Many simply lost customers.