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Old 02-08-2009, 04:16 PM
 
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Thanks for that link Travel'r! Plashke always has good columns and I catch him whenever I can on ESPN's Around The Horn.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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To those who feel that athletes should be allowed to use steroids. How do you determine how much these steroid using athletes should be paid? Say they allow steroids in baseball. You have a guy who normally hits around 30 homeruns a year but after taking steroids he starts averaging 50 homeruns a season. With this increase in homeruns won't he start demanding more money from his team? This could become a problem for team owners who would prefer players be paid based on their actual ability.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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This is one of the reasons as to why I went from loving baseball to liking it a lot.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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I blame the fans for this along with the Union, players and owners. After the strike nobody was watching much. The Ripken thing helped but that was a short lived thing. Ratings and attendance went through the roof when Sosa and MAc starting hitting home runs. Everyone knew they were were using.

I find it comical that fans now act like they were betrayed and these guys were cheating them. You knew they were doing it. But you kept watching. If it had bothered people that much (like they want to pretend) then ratings and attendance would have dropped immediatley.

I think a lot of the fans are bigger hypocrites than some of these players.

And yes, I believe Selig makes somewhere around 15 million a year. Seems like a fair salary to me.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:58 AM
 
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I blame the fans for this along with the Union, players and owners. After the strike nobody was watching much. The Ripken thing helped but that was a short lived thing. Ratings and attendance went through the roof when Sosa and MAc starting hitting home runs. Everyone knew they were were using.

I find it comical that fans now act like they were betrayed and these guys were cheating them. You knew they were doing it. But you kept watching. If it had bothered people that much (like they want to pretend) then ratings and attendance would have dropped immediatley.

I think a lot of the fans are bigger hypocrites than some of these players.

And yes, I believe Selig makes somewhere around 15 million a year. Seems like a fair salary to me.

Selig made over 17M last year.

And for what? So he can drag the sport further into the tank. Short term gain if you ask me.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:01 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I sure hope Ryan Howard is clean. Maybe he's one we can count on some day to make that a real baseball record again.
Howard is clean. He's always been big, and his whole family is big...his brothers are even bigger than him.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Hopefully MLB goes away now.
Speak for yourself.

Anyways, at least MLB has done something about the steroid problem. You can't tell me that there's no steroid problem in football. There is obviously a major steroid problem in both the NFL and NCAA, and they just have their heads in the sand, ignoring the problem.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:03 AM
 
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Howard is clean. He's always been big, and his whole family is big...his brothers are even bigger than him.

I dont trust any of them. NONE. Not Howard, not Ortiz in Boston, not a one of them.

Baseball has lost it's spot as America's Past Time. The NFL now owns that title and they need to accept that and put a clean product on the field. Is this to say that the other sports are clean, HELL no! BUT MLB is by far the worst.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:07 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I dont trust any of them. NONE. Not Howard, not Ortiz in Boston, not a one of them.

Baseball has lost it's spot as America's Past Time. The NFL now owns that title and they need to accept that and put a clean product on the field. Is this to say that the other sports are clean, HELL no! BUT MLB is by far the worst.
Like I said, at least MLB tests for steroids and acknowledges the problem. Steroids are obviously a problem in football, and they just stick their heads in the sand.

MLB the worst? Are you kidding me? I would guess that a majority, if not all, football players are on some kind of performance-enhancing drug.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:22 AM
 
Location: The Communist State of NJ
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Howard is clean. He's always been big, and his whole family is big...his brothers are even bigger than him.
I hope so, but you never know.
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