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I actually really hope the OP comes back and posts what he decided to do, and how it turned out. I think it would be interesting, and possibly a learning experience.
I posted a response yesterday saying that I intend to pay the ticket and consider it lesson learned. I commend all those who always use their turn signals, I know they're the small minority of drivers. I was at fault 100% and accept responsibility. Although human nature leads us to compare ourselves to others and their behavior, I know I was wrong and there's no excuse, I just got unlucky and got caught. I know I see this kind of behavior literally every few minutes everyday when I drive and have rarely seen someone pulled over for it. I just hope the cop that pulled me over does this to all those that don't use their turn signals like I did. It's just really frustrating, not because I have to pay, but because the vast majority of times this happens there isn't a cop in sight to pull the person over. And for all those dog piling on me for the last time: I was wrong and I'll try to get into the habit of using my signals more.
I'm thinking you should use your signals next time. They're there for a reason, and it takes literally one second to flip the switch to either side. You will get no remorse from me.
Also, tell the judge you don't think you should have to pay the $194 and tell me what he says.
You are absolutely right. I'm just going to pay the fine. I was guilty of doing exactly what irritates me the most about others driving habits. Looks like I've become just like the drivers I hate
You are absolutely right. I'm just going to pay the fine. I was guilty of doing exactly what irritates me the most about others driving habits. Looks like I've become just like the drivers I hate
California Motor Vehicle Code does NOT require a signal if there is no other fraffic that would be affected. So check your state law and make the cop show that there were other vehicles present whose movement was actually affected by the lane change.
22107. No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.
If you don't signal at all, then you are not meeting the requirement to signal continuously during the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning.
Also if a cop is there to pull you over, then his vehicle would be the affected one. The ticket would probably stand up in court.
From the CA driver's handbook:
California Driver Handbook - Safe Driving Practices
Signaling
Always signal when turning left or right, changing lanes, slowing down, or stopping; it lets other drivers, motorcyclists, bicyclists, and pedestrians know your intentions.
Signals may be given by hand-and-arm positions or by using the vehicle’s signal lights. If bright sunlight makes the signal lights hard to see, also use hand-and-arm signals.
As someone who is constantly inconvenienced, occasionally annoyed and seldomly endangered by being kept in the dark as to other driver's intentions when they can't be bothered to use turn signals, you need to just shut up about a turn signal ticket. Personally, I wish they were issued far more often in every area where I've lived. Pay up and carry on with your life.
I was commenting to wife today that for the most part,drivers today and turn signals are like in early 50's when vehicles didn't have signals,arm signals, and we wished we did.we now have them but do not use them.
For those questioning the costs I mentioned I can tell you it's very common in my area for an attorney to charge $100 over the ticket cost to take care of simple tickets. They do multiples in a day and can make decent money.
My wife and I have unfortunately had to avail ourselves of these services more than we probably should have.
i dont understand why youd get two tickets, it seems you could talk your way into just one. things i dont like about turn signals:
- the person using them acts like that alone will stop all traffic in the lane they are turning into and everyone will accommodate them entering the lane.
- conversely, the people that block off others from entering a lane when a lane is about to end...so the driver blocks everyone else and rides the bumper in front of them, saving them virtually zero time and increasing the accident hazard
The other cars behind me were at least 100 feet behind in 20 mph traffic between stop light, and I inconvenienced no one. While I understand there could have been a car that I didn't see (hence the need for turn signals), I literally see people doing exactly what I did every couple of minutes on the road while I'm driving, and a lot worse.
Not a valid argument. You don't do it because they don't do it. They don't do it because you don't do it. Then nobody does it. You were obviously not the only one on the road. The real question is what did you do to attract the cops attention out of all these drivers who were not using their turn signals?
Not using your turn signal one time, the cop could probably ignore it. Not using your turn signal multiple times while you have a cop right behind you, got you pulled over. You obviously have issues with turn signal use.
I just received a ticket for a turn signal violation, which I'm guilty of. It's a $97 fine, which I would pay but I just checked the ticket and the officer wrote down my violation twice so it's a $194 fine. I apparently switched lanes twice without signaling. I can pay the $97 but don't want to pay the $194, that's excessive, I wasn't speeding or endangering anyone. I'm thinking of challenging this in court. Should I do this? Anyone have experience with turn signal violations tickets? Looking for advice on what I should do, I really don't think I should have to pay $194 for failure to use my signal. Thanks in advance.
Can you explain why you don't use your turn signals? I see this a lot and I've always wondered about the person's mindset. Do you not want to give a warning for fear that people won't let you in?
The new thing I see lately is they speed up, jam on their brakes and just kind of swerve into a lane right in front of another car. Even when there is light traffic.
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