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Sp, if you're making your left turn, you can't visually note as you make your turn that the right lane is also clear, and then just move over into it. How do you do this 50-100 times a day, without learning how to look at both lanes? You don't make your left turn until you can clearly see that the lane is free, but you can't at the same time determine that the right lane is also clear, and just pull over into it, you have to drive for at least 100 feet in the left lane with your right flasher on, and them move over into the right lane, which you had already determined to be clear. $97 fine.
I learned a long time ago to visually check both lanes, both in front and behind. If I am turning or changing lanes, my turn signal goes on, there is little thought involved.
I don't get why you are making this so complicated? Just use your freaking turn signal when turning or merging. Easy.
Maybe it's because you ride this bus and have lost touch with basic driving skills?
California Motor Vehicle Code does NOT require a signal if there is no other fraffic that would be affected. So check your state law and make the cop show that there were other vehicles present whose movement was actually affected by the lane change.
22107. No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.
Now, if only they'd actually enforce it in California...
That, and the "Slower Traffic Keep Right" law. The signs are everywhere but drivers camp out in the Number One lane, going 15 to 25 mph slower than everyone else. That, or they'll create a "rolling roadblock" by driving at the same exact speed as the car to their right.
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I don't get the objection to using a turn signal if nobody is around. Is it really that much of an effort to lift or push that lever? Afraid you might have to buy a two dollar light bulb in four years instead of five?
As my old driver ed instructor used to say, it is the car you don't see that is the most dangerous. When turning or making a lane change, it never hurts to assume there is someone you don't see; the signal might just prevent them from hitting you.
Not only that, but by making it a habit, you never have to worry about forgetting.
I don't get the objection to using a turn signal if nobody is around. Is it really that much of an effort to lift or push that lever? Afraid you might have to buy a two dollar light bulb in four years instead of five?
As my old driver ed instructor used to say, it is the car you don't see that is the most dangerous. When turning or making a lane change, it never hurts to assume there is someone you don't see; the signal might just prevent them from hitting you.
Not only that, but by making it a habit, you never have to worry about forgetting.
... it is the car you don't see that is the most dangerous. When turning or making a lane change, it never hurts to assume there is someone you don't see; the signal might just prevent them from hitting you.
Not only that, but by making it a habit, you never have to worry about forgetting.
I agree with your example and logic, however, I bet you would need to add another "0" to the attorney's fee.
Not for a simple traffic ticket. $150 seems low but it's definitely not in the 4 digit range until you start talking about serious stakes such as a DUI or reckless driving. A standard 3-point traffic ticket is basically 20 minutes of prep and a 10-minute court appearance, and they can do several cases a day so it's still possible to make a decent living just charging a couple hundred bucks a case.
I don't get the objection to using a turn signal if nobody is around. Is it really that much of an effort to lift or push that lever? Afraid you might have to buy a two dollar light bulb in four years instead of five?.
You probably also don't get the objection to saying 'Excuse me' when you belch and you are home alone and there is nobody around. Or closing the bathroom door when you're home alone. Or wearing a condom when you sleep alone. It does no harm, but it seems kind of silly and pointless. I think most posters above agreed that, more than just being the law, using your signals is a driving courtesy, just like saying "Excuse me".
I use my signals whenever I change lanes, turn or merge.....even if I do not see someone nearby. But I guess that is the point, I signal to let anyone and everyone know my intentions.
Sometimes when you merge, you cannot fully see the lane you are merging into...right up until you enter said lane. But someone traveling in that lane will hopefully see your blinker on and realize your intentions....and they might even
give-way somewhat!
Im with you 100%. I wish more cops ticketed around here for that because I feel you are putting more people at risk by not using them regardless of speed or amount of cars on the road than if you are using them and going 15 miles over the speed limit.
I don't get the objection to using a turn signal if nobody is around. Is it really that much of an effort to lift or push that lever? Afraid you might have to buy a two dollar light bulb in four years instead of five?
As my old driver ed instructor used to say, it is the car you don't see that is the most dangerous. When turning or making a lane change, it never hurts to assume there is someone you don't see; the signal might just prevent them from hitting you.
Not only that, but by making it a habit, you never have to worry about forgetting.
Exactly! Long ago I made it a habit to ALWAYS! use my turn signal. I use it in store parking lots and on empty streets.
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