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Please explain this rationale. If you hit something at 30 MPH do you think there is a possibility of serious injury or are you convinced you can't be hurt at that speed?
sj08054, Not arguing, but no one should be able to make me be safe if I dont want to. Again, I wear a seatbelt and have no problem with it. Just dont think this is an issue for others to decide, just like the helmet law, but thats a whole new thread.
Not arguing, but no one should be able to make me be safe if I dont want to. Again, I wear a seatbelt and have no problem with it. Just dont think this is an issue for others to decide, just like the helmet law, but thats a whole new thread.
I agree that helmet use doesn't impact fellow drivers, and their use should be left to the operator's discretion.
OTOH, use of a seatbelt will allow for you to remain in your seat. Its use may permit you to remain under control of your vehicle after being hit, and allow for you to keep your vehicle(and your body) from careening into others. For that reason, i agree with seatbelt use being mandated.
I can completely agree with this. However in the unlikely event an accident does happen, you should be prepared be pay for any medical injuries you sustain. The government should haven't to bail you out if you can't cover the medical expenses. You could quickly point out you have private insurance, however if the private insurance company learned that you have major injuries, where if you HAD used a seat belt they wouldn't have been as extensive (and costly) they might be less willing to pay to all of the medical costs. In short, you can't ask for total freedom and be unwilling to pay for that freedom.
Personally I always wear seat belts, having been in several vehicle accidents, I know it only a matter of time before you hit something or something hits you.
This insurance stupidity, still?
When everything else that people do to themselves that cost lots of insurance money is outlawed, get back to me about not wearing seat belts. This seems to be the blind agenda for some of you.
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It is so dumb to smoke yourself to death with cigarettes. I can't even believe we're still having this discussion in the U.S.
But they're legal, and 20%+ of Americans do it every day. Cigarettes kill more people in a day than lack of seat belts do in a year. Where's all the outrage for that?
Yes, I know, this isn't the death by stupidity thread, but I bet some of you smoke. You put on your seat belts, but then poison yourselves many times a day. Ironic, isn't it, to then rage on about how dumb not wearing a seat belt is.
As I said above, I agree that seat belts are a good idea. But this is just silly. Saying things like "people who don't wear seat belts and get in a wreck cause more danger for emergency personnel" as some kind of reasoning to not insure seat belt avoiders is just ridiculous. Ridiculous. Any action can be seen as dangerous to someone else if it's assumed consequences are taken out far enough.
Question, How is going 30 MPH and hitting another car going 30 MPH head on any different than hitting a stationary object when your going 60 MPH?
Yes. A head on collision of two cars both going 30 mph is roughly identical to hitting a stationary object at 30. You really would not want to be in a car that hit a non-deformable stationary object (a concrete wall or tree, for example) at 30 mph. Ugly.
Was talking to a Minnesota State Highway Patrolman today during a break at a safety meeting. He was saying that when Herb Brooks (Miracle on Ice coach) died in a car accident in Forest Lake, MN he was not wearing his seatbelt.
He fell asleep behind the wheel on the freeway, drifted into the ditch and then panicked and over-corrected and rolled the van. He was thrown to the other side of the van. The van rolled twice and ended up sitting on it's tires in the ditch. Only problem the roof caved in and crushed Herb's chest.
If he would have worn a seatbelt he would have opened the driver's door and walked away as the driver's side was not damaged.
So if you don't wear one, what is your reason?
Not wearing one is a device for the cleansing of the gene pool.
SJ08054, the only argument I have is its my life and I can do with it as I choose. If I choose not to wear my seatbelt and I die how does it impact you? I miss NH and the "Live Free or Die" motto. Not trying to disrespect anyones thoughts, just my two cents. And yes I do wear my seatbelt.
Because if you become paralyzed or sustain a severe traumatic brain injury, you will use an EXORBITANT amount of health care. Even if you have insurance, ultimately you will likely deplete your savings and be on state assistance/medicaid. This is because catastrophic injuries lead to many needs that are not covered by insurance, and you often lose your job.
I don't want to pay for your stupidity.
So yes, I also agree that smokers should have to pay more for their health insurance, just like auto insurance is higher for those with more accidents.
Is there anyone left who doesn't wear their seatbelts?
Each year, there are fewer and fewer, as these folks self-select themselves for elimination from the gene pool.
Yes, I suppose that this is a violation of one's personal freedom.
Is that the origin of New Hampshire's official slogan--Live Free and Then Die...a Horrible, Painful Death Because You Didn't Want To Have Your Freedom Infringed Upon By Wearing a Seat Belt...?
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) from careening into others. For that reason, i agree with seatbelt use being mandated.
Is there anyone left who doesn't wear their seatbelts?
