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Old 03-23-2012, 02:50 PM
 
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For many of the items you asked about in bold, you can look this up yourself on the Hyundai website. Same thing about tax credits. Google hybrid tax credit and you will learn exactly what you want to know from the IRS instead of us on a message board.

I suggest you evaluate your cars "powertrain blind."

Car A costs $25K. It gets 50 MPG in the city and 48 MPG on the highway. It uses regular gas. It is reliable, but will need a major service at 150,000 miles that costs about $3000. Some say this car is a bit slow.

Car B costs $20K. It gets 28 MPG in the city, and 38 MPG on the highway. It uses regular gas. It is also reliable. It may or may not need major service around 150,000 miles. Many say this car is peppy.

Car C costs $22K. It gets 28 MPG in the city, and 42 MPG on the highway. It uses expensive gas. It has mixed reliability. This car is considered a bit sluggish.

Based on your needs and budget, which is a better choice?
Which car is Car A? Which car is Car B? Which car is Car C? I only asked about the Hyundai Accent but would like to know which specific vehicles you are comparing and which is which.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The Accent gets 30/40 MPG city/highway according to a recent review in Motor Trend. It also came in first place in a comparison of 7 subcompact cars as detailed in the current issue of Automobile Magazine.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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The Accent gets 30/40 MPG city/highway according to a recent review in Motor Trend. It also came in first place in a comparison of 7 subcompact cars as detailed in the current issue of Automobile Magazine.
For comparison, Hybrids get that kind of mileage (and better) in mid-sized sedans. That's the primary difference. Small car vs Mid-sized car.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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That's why hybrids make little sense these days; the 2012 Sonata gets 35MPG on the highway for a very modest $22K, so spending an extra $6,000 for a Sonata hybrid makes little sense for most of us.

Furthermore, the hybrid/electric car segment hasn't had more than 2%-3% of the market for over a decade.
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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And who drives all highway? Maybe some.. but for MANY, like I, in mixed driving Id probally be lucky to see 28, MAYBE 30, (doubt it), out of that weak 4cyl. In a hybrid camry with 200hp Id be seeing 37-42mpg ( $26k sticker with much better amenities and MUCH better driving the hyundai) and about 47-53 in a prius (for $24k)..
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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And who drives all highway? Maybe some.. but for MANY, like I, in mixed driving Id probally be lucky to see 28, MAYBE 30, (doubt it), out of that weak 4cyl. In a hybrid camry with 200hp Id be seeing 37-42mpg, and about 47-53 in a prius....
I'm with you. A lot of people throw away the highway mpg like it's meaningful. For someone to get that mileage 100% of the time, they have to live on the highway and have a hot engine before they start their car.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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I forgot to mention that the Sonata gets 24MPG in city driving (I didn't see a city MPG number mentioned in the MT review), but the competition in this category is very fierce, as is the case for both compacts and subcompacts.

Bottom line is that you can get a lot of car for under $25,000, regardless of which category you're interested in.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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The Accent gets 30/40 MPG city/highway according to a recent review in Motor Trend. It also came in first place in a comparison of 7 subcompact cars as detailed in the current issue of Automobile Magazine.
Wow I did not realize that. I am a young adult and eventually want to trade in my 03' Audi A4 Turbo. How much do you think I can get off the Hyundai Accent price? Most importantly, which is the best Hyundai Accent to purchase (note: I am not interested in the installed navigation system but I would like bluetooth features).
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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You ddidn't say where you live (I'm in Los Angeles), but for comparison, I purchased a 2007 Elantra for $4,600 under sticker ($11,995 + T&L for a car with a sticker of $16,580), and all I had to do was check the ads in a few suburban newspapers every Friday & Saturday until somebody had a huge sale on them.

5 years and 52K miles later, I'm very happy with it; it has great headroom & legroom for me (I'm 6-3 & 230), and the legroom in the back is enormous.

I'm pretty sure that the interior room makes it the best in this very competitive class, which includes the Civic, Sentra, Corolla, Mazda3, Focus, Cruze & other sedans.
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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The main thing most people should consider is resale value based upon ho long they believe they will own the vehicle.

This is why I advise against Hyundai/Kia and ALL hybrids. Hyundai/Kia MAY have improved their long-term reliability recently, but until proof of such happens and the resale values come up, I ain't buying.

What happens after that hybrid warranty runs out and you get nailed for a $5,000 repair?
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