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Old 05-19-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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@kirkwoodhipster – You’re wasting your time. These posters think of Atlanta as “theirs”, and they are threatened by the idea of Atlanta being known for something other than blackness. It bothers them to no end, which is why you see these intricate and detailed posts. Then they start to admit that Atlanta may be a mecca for other groups, but it’s not as much as a mecca as it is for us blacks.

@ Algreen, Aries, Afonega. You people act like mecca-status is some legitimate title bestowed by an official organization. What a joke! Are you f’in kidding me? It is a term coined by the national media, and a term that is being used less and less. Do a google news search of the term if you don’t believe it.

Do you not realize how selfish and self-centered you are? Here people are excited about Asians and Hispanics and whites and what they have contributed to Atlanta and you come right back with a put-down: “well, they haven’t done as much as us blacks”, “well, Atlanta will always be a place for us”, “yeah, big deal, no media is talking about you, they only talk about us.” I mean seriously it is pathetic to watch.

I wasn’t kidding about the 3-year-old having to share his toy with other kids analogy. It really works perfect: Atlanta is the toy, the black posters in this thread are the 3-year-olds, and the other kids are whites, Asians, and Hispanics. Sad thing is, just like the 3-year-old, they can throw a temper tantrum, but it’s not going to change the fact that they are going to have to share that toy.
At this point I truly believe you have a 3rd grade at best level education if this is what you concluded in this thread. Truly sad.

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And let it be known, I speak from the perspective of a (black) non-resident...

I honestly believe you're missing the point here, so I'll get to basics...the term 'Black Mecca' was indded coined in a magazine article somewhere back in (I believe) the 80's...said term was coined because, even today, Atlanta is a magnet for black business and entertainemnt professionals, athletes, and just regular folks wanting a new and possibly better life for themselves and their children...

Several HBCU's (historically black colleges and universities) are located within Atlanta proper, as are Georgia Tech and Georgia State...Atlanta is known as a major destination for concerts and the like in the black community as well...

I say this to point out one inescapable fact...not one preson in the black community, is laying awake somewhere in a James Brown-like cold sweat, having conniption fits because Asians, Hispanics, Marshamallow People from Ookabolaponga,or whomever, find Atlanta to be a desirable location...not one...I honestly think all this unfounded fear rises from some stereotype that there are large angry black men, standing at all entry points to Atlanta, wearing sandwich boards that say 'ATLANTA = BLACKS ONLY!!! ALL OTHERS NEED NOT APPLY!!!'

Do you realize how utterly absurd even thinking about that last line I typed must be? I REALLY don't think that black folk have a problem with others finding Atlanta desirable...I think a lot of it stems from people subscribing to old, cobweb-encrusted sterotypes that frankly need to be put out of their misery (stereotypes, not people LOL)...

Bottom line? Atlanta is EVERYBODY'S city...true, there IS a great deal of black history tied in to Atlanta's growth, and a lot of blacks still find it a desirable location, but please please please (another James Brown reference) show me ANYWHERE that states that other ethnicities don't have an equal stake in the city's future, or find Atlanta equally desirable
Brilliant post! This is it, thread should be closed now!
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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You are misguided and misinformed.
Nope. I'm pretty informed on this subject, and I am guided by common sense and intelligence.

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I know you hate the idea of blacks actually having a large historical impact on a city, but it's a fact. Whether you like it or not.
Nope. Blacks are definitely a big part of the equation, but that doesn't mean their history makes their claim to Atlanta superior to other groups. There is more to Atlanta's history than some of these posters would lead you to believe. It didn't all revolve around MLK.

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I promise you, black people aren't "worried" or having "temper tantrums" because the population of other races is rising. Perhaps you feel that way because that's exactly what you would do yourself? When people make unsubstantial accusations it's normally because they're guilty of what they're accusing.
Au contraire, read this thread and it's obvious. Atlanta is "theirs". Anyone who tried to suggest Atlanta as an Asian Mecca was quickly slammed. So threatened. It's sad.

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But I'm sure you know us better than we know ourselves?
Ourselves? You're from Austin. Stop trolling in the Atlanta forum. I know they start with the same letter, but come on now...
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Nope. I'm pretty informed on this subject, and I am guided by common sense and intelligence.



Nope. Blacks are definitely a big part of the equation, but that doesn't mean their history makes their claim to Atlanta superior to other groups. There is more to Atlanta's history than some of these posters would lead you to believe. It didn't all revolve around MLK.


Au contraire, read this thread and it's obvious. Atlanta is "theirs". Anyone who tried to suggest Atlanta as an Asian Mecca was quickly slammed. So threatened. It's sad.



Ourselves? You're from Austin. Stop trolling in the Atlanta forum. I know they start with the same letter, but come on now...

Are you that dense? No one here said that. The only one TROLLING IS YOU.
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Nope. I'm pretty informed on this subject, and I am guided by common sense and intelligence.



Nope. Blacks are definitely a big part of the equation, but that doesn't mean their history makes their claim to Atlanta superior to other groups. There is more to Atlanta's history than some of these posters would lead you to believe. It didn't all revolve around MLK.


Au contraire, read this thread and it's obvious. Atlanta is "theirs". Anyone who tried to suggest Atlanta as an Asian Mecca was quickly slammed. So threatened. It's sad.



Ourselves? You're from Austin. Stop trolling in the Atlanta forum. I know they start with the same letter, but come on now...
First of all, Austin is given as my location. That has NO bearing on my ties to Atlanta. I could be born and raised there for all you know. But, I happen to be born and raised in Austin and have never even been to Atlanta. This has nothing to do with black Atlantans. It's blacks in general and I happen to be black.

The same type of nonsense happens in the Texas forums every time someone says "black" or "african-american" people get all defensive and say we're segregating ourselves. So, I would take a step back before you say I'M trolling. I'm simply being honest and stating facts. You are making generalizations and sensationalizing the whole situation.

BTW, nobody "slammed" anybody for saying Atlanta is an Asian mecca. They simply stated that it wasn't to the degree that is was to blacks or to other cities that have been called Asian meccas like San Francisco. The only people who are "slamming" others are the guys on your side of the argument.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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This has nothing to do with black Atlantans. It's blacks in general.
Read the title of the thread.

But of course, since Atlanta is "your" city, it belongs to all black people, not just the people who live there. What a joke.

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The same type of nonsense happens in the Texas forums every time someone says "black" or "african-american" people get all defensive and say we're segregating ourselves. So, I would take a step back before you say I'M trolling. I'm simply being honest and stating facts. You are making generalizations and sensationalizing the whole situation.
This entire thread is opinion. Calling a place a black mecca is opinion. It has no scientific backing and cannot be empircally proven. You have not stated any facts. You have stated your opinion, and nothing more.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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BTW, nobody "slammed" anybody for saying Atlanta is an Asian mecca. They simply stated that it wasn't to the degree that is was to blacks or to other cities that have been called Asian meccas like San Francisco. The only people who are "slamming" others are the guys on your side of the argument.
Why does that even need to be said? If someone calls it an Asian Mecca, why do the black posters have to come in and say, "Yeah, well it's not anything to Asians like it is to blacks." Why should they care if someone labels Atlanta an Asian Mecca? Answer my questions with a good reason besides the fact that they are threatened by it or it bothers them that Atlanta is associated with Asians, which are very un-black. This ought to be good.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Read the title of the thread.

But of course, since Atlanta is "your" city, it belongs to all black people, not just the people who live there. What a joke.

This entire thread is opinion. Calling a place a black mecca is opinion. It has no scientific backing and cannot be empircally proven. You have not stated any facts. You have stated your opinion, and nothing more.
When did I ever refer to Atlanta as "my" city? There you go, making assumptions and generalizations again. The only joke is that you take yourself so seriously.

I got in on this discussion because, as a black person, I don't take kindly to others trying to generalize us or act like they know what we're thinking. I also happen to have an interest in the city of Atlanta, so I come to this forum from time to time.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Why does that even need to be said? If someone calls it an Asian Mecca, why do the black posters have to come in and say, "Yeah, well it's not anything to Asians like it is to blacks." Give me a good reason besides the fact that they are threatened by it or it bothers them that Atlanta is associated with Asians, which are very un-black. This ought to be good.
I never opined on whether it needed to be said or not. I was simply correcting your brash assertion that people were getting "slammed" for calling Atlanta an Asian mecca.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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I never opined on whether it needed to be said or not. I was simply correcting your brash assertion that people were getting "slammed" for calling Atlanta an Asian mecca.
And I stand by my assertion. These posters cannot stand that someone would label "your" city as a mecca for someone other than blacks. That's why they attack people for saying so.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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When did I ever refer to Atlanta as "my" city? There you go, making assumptions and generalizations again. The only joke is that you take yourself so seriously.
Claiming that the topic applies to all black people, not just those residing in Atlanta. What does a black person who lives in Indianapolis and loves it have to say about Atlanta being a black mecca? He thinks Indianapolis is a black mecca. Under your theory, he should care just because he is black, and since he is black, Atlanta is "his" city, and it should bother him that anyone would try to challenge it as "his."
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I got in on this discussion because, as a black person, I don't take kindly to others trying to generalize us or act like they know what we're thinking. I also happen to have an interest in the city of Atlanta, so I come to this forum from time to time.
I never generalized black people. I described, specifically, the posters in this thread. All of the discussions have been confined to the people participating in this thread, who, besides you, live in Atlanta.
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