What city will replace Atlanta as the new black mecca? (high crime, place to live)

[md911]

Originally Posted by afonega1

I knew I should have just stayed out of this thread.50 pages I did just that.You hope that by giving your honest and sincere opinion would be taken as it is..an opinion!One that is shaped by personal experiences.Those are owned by each individual whether black or white.No one can tell you thr true meaning of whats in your heart.

If someone asked me that and I answered its like a black mecca,then compared to where I may have been before ,this could be a new and positive thing FOR ME.Why does it have to be negative for anybody else because of how I feel.Its not like people are putting up signs saying "black mecca don't come".
Im sorry but I just cant apologize for someone unwilling to see that heaven can be the same place occupied by 2 different people who are happy to be there but with a different descriptions of what heaven means.

I love that!

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Says who? I didn't know there was a universal definition of "Black Mecca". Please link me to it, and what it means and doesn't mean. That would really clear the air.

There isn't one. The basic concept however is a city that has a large amount of middle and upper class African-Americans, high amount of African-American ownership, strong African-American educational institutions, visible African-American presence in politics, and a strong social and artistic scene. As of 2011, Atlanta and Washington DC exemplify the elite in all of those categories however in the past Chicago, Detroit and New York City have held various roles in that regard.

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

How do you know? By the way, if West End is so great, why don't you live there?

How do I know? HAHAHA. Dude, I grew up in East Point and lived there until I was 18 when I went to school in the West End and continued living there for about a year afterward. My parents still live in East Point, so I am down on that side of town at least once a week. Trust me, it's less scary than it's made to be.

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

The only thing funny is watching you and other black posters get upset when someone calls Atlanta an Asian Mecca. It's also funny to watch the groupthink. Is there some nerve center telling you what to think, or does that just ingrained from years of experience?

Seeing as how I am half Asian, that statement is literally and factually not true...and so hilarious I think I'll print this out, frame it, and hang it on my wall. LMAO.

And since when did Black Atlantans have a problem with Asians? This isn't Los Angeles. LOL

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

How dare I take issue with the exclusion of other groups. In fact, me taking issue is actually an attack on all black people, all over the U.S. Everybody take a shot! Don't let me get away with this.

Ok, I can't even figure out if this was supposed to be serious or supposed to sarcasm. Pretty big fail either way it goes on both accounts. SMH

[bmorefella]

Originally Posted by kingtat

new poster here! I have read many articles saying how the black population of atlanta is shrinking. Its even on the wikipedia page! I am just wondering what city do you guys think will take the place of atlanta as the "new black mecca?" i am thinking maybe charlotte, or dallas. Both cities saw a rise in african american population the same years atlanta saw a decline.

I am only 16, but when i graduate college i wanna move to the new black mecca. By then (2015) atlanta will have been dethroned. But by what city?!

my opinion cities that could replace in order!!!
1. Charlotte, nc
2. Houston, tx
3. Baltimore, MD- IF THE CRIME RATE GOES DOWN!!!
4. WASHINGTON, D.C.- IF THE PROPERTY VALUE WASN'T SOO DAMN HIGH!!!

BUT I SERIOUSLY DONT SEE IT HAPPENING ATLANTA IS THE SH##

[Esteban5]

Brenda Wood referred to Atlanta as a black mecca in yesterday's news cast.

[AlGreen]

Originally Posted by bmorefella

my opinion cities that could replace in order!!!
1. Charlotte, nc
2. Houston, tx
3. Baltimore, MD- IF THE CRIME RATE GOES DOWN!!!
4. WASHINGTON, D.C.- IF THE PROPERTY VALUE WASN'T SOO DAMN HIGH!!!

BUT I SERIOUSLY DONT SEE IT HAPPENING ATLANTA IS THE SH##

Lol, if you think the black mecca issue is a problem in Atlanta, then stay out of the Houston forum with that discussion. They'll attack you mercilessly with arguments about the city's diversity. I have to admit that in Houston, because of it being so highly integrated, race is almost a nonexistent issue; so even if it were to become a new mecca to blacks, it would probably never be talked about. Dallas, on the other hand, is more like Atlanta in that regard.

I had previously thought that Charlotte might be too small, but they seem to be doing bigger things.

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

There isn't one. The basic concept however is a city that has a large amount of middle and upper class African-Americans, high amount of African-American ownership, strong African-American educational institutions, visible African-American presence in politics, and a strong social and artistic scene. As of 2011, Atlanta and Washington DC exemplify the elite in all of those categories however in the past Chicago, Detroit and New York City have held various roles in that regard.

That's your definition, not a basic concept. This is purely your opinion, 100%.

How do I know? HAHAHA. Dude, I grew up in East Point and lived there until I was 18 when I went to school in the West End and continued living there for about a year afterward. My parents still live in East Point, so I am down on that side of town at least once a week. Trust me, it's less scary than it's made to be.

How do you know what some white people believe? Did they tell you that they thought would be raped just by sitting on a street-corner? Or can you read their mind?

Seeing as how I am half Asian, that statement is literally and factually not true...and so hilarious I think I'll print this out, frame it, and hang it on my wall. LMAO.

Clearly your black half is dominant. You always side with black posters and you harbor intense resentment towards whites, way moreso than any Asian or mixed person would normally harbor. You're mixed in name only. All of the views you espouse on here are completely in line with black group-think.

And since when did Black Atlantans have a problem with Asians? This isn't Los Angeles. LOL

You tell me. Why did everyone respond to posters labeling Atlanta an Asian Mecca by saying it's a black mecca??? No one will answer this and I have asked multiple times.

Ok, I can't even figure out if this was supposed to be serious or supposed to sarcasm. Pretty big fail either way it goes on both accounts. SMH

It was actually pretty successful in what it was meant to do, which was calling out your persecution complex.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

That's your definition, not a basic concept. This is purely your opinion, 100%.

No, that's pretty much the established realistic belief. I can not imagine what else would constitute a cultural mecca in the United States.

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

How do you know what some white people believe? Did they tell you that they thought would be raped just by sitting on a street-corner? Or can you read their mind?

I was actually told this by someone who is white. True story. It wasn't mean spirited, but they said they had that feeling before. The way some people act here it seems they would harbor the same or similar thoughts whether it be explicit or merely subconscious.

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Clearly your black half is dominant. You always side with black posters and you harbor intense resentment towards whites, way moreso than any Asian or mixed person would normally harbor. You're mixed in name only. All of the views you espouse on here are completely in line with black group-think.

LOL, believe whatever you want but that is not true. The fact is that you have not met me in person so you frankly have no idea who or what I am and what I believe.

I do enjoy the juxtaposition of this paragraph with the previous though. You were oh so offended when I suggested some white people (not all, nor you as I have no idea if you think that way) have a distinct fear of going into black neighborhoods because they fear for their safety (falsely) because of the color of their skin alone.

Yet you seem to think you are not being hypocritical by specifically saying what I, waronxmas, personally believes in backed up with zero fact or anecdotal evidence. Then you proceeded to say that there is some sort of black group think (whatever that is) and that I "do not harbor the feelings that an Asian or mixed person would harbor"? Seriously, wtf? Are you some sort of raceologist that has a super secret guide book on how all people of a specific ethnicity and background act? Where do you get off telling me how I am supposed to conduct myself based on whom my ancestors are?

Contrary to whatever crazy ideas you were exposed to during your upbringing, thoughts are held by individuals. I'm entitled to believe whatever I want to believe just like you are and what I look like has no bearing on that. I am a citizen and a free man so I can think and believe in anything I damn well please thank you very much.

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

You tell me. Why did everyone respond to posters labeling Atlanta an Asian Mecca by saying it's a black mecca??? No one will answer this and I have asked multiple times.

I am not Waronxmas king of the black folk, so I can't tell you why someone else decided to do that. I can tell you that many people on this thread have continuously stated that they are proud of how much the Asian community has grown here. From my perspective as an Asian and as an Atlantan, the very idea of Atlanta having a million plus Asian residents and called an "Asian Mecca" one day makes my want to dance for joy. I literally can not wait for the day when that happens and if I had the power to make it true tomorrow, I would. Several other posters on this thread have stated the same sentiment. Of course, you will conveniently ignore this paragraph just as you have ignored the other statements to the same effect.

Besides, why are you trying to use Asians as a wedge issue in this thread? Why don't talk about your own folks and get off our jock?

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

It was actually pretty successful in what it was meant to do, which was calling out your persecution complex.

Hmm, so since you are taking a day off from being a law student to play a psychotherapist, please oh please tell me just exactly how I should think.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

... Then you proceeded to say that there is some sort of black group think (whatever that is) and ...

waronxmas, I don't want to get into this dispute between you and BBC, but this caught my eye. I have several times heard black people object to being lumped together, while at the same time saying things like "black folks don't like X" or "black people see Place Y as special."

Personally I don't have a problem with people having shared beliefs. However, it seems odd to say they do while insisting that they don't.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

That's your definition, not a basic concept. This is purely your opinion, 100%.

Clearly your black half is dominant. You always side with black posters and you harbor intense resentment towards whites, way moreso than any Asian or mixed person would normally harbor. You're mixed in name only. All of the views you espouse on here are completely in line with black group-think.

Please tell me more about what's black group-think? Posters have told you about racist hasty gernerzation like this before, why do you keep this? Also you know what's a black view is? And waronxmas view is black side dominant? waronxmas has intense towards whites? Do you read what your trying?

Also um no, you have resentment blacks. Here's a tip believing blacks generally have intense resentment towards whites is just as racist as some black who has intense resentment towards whites. The flaw is hasty generalizing I know you believe in reverse racism so I put like this many posters see you as a reverse, reverse racist. Again the flaw is hasty generalizing. There sadly black, white, purple, pink individual racists but if someone believe a group is largely racist then they're racist.

But I don’t know why I’m trying to rational with you, you try to spin the term black Mecca as hateful when you don’t want Muslim in Atlanta and etc. Then you say posters have resentment towards whites when you have no ground to say, the posters your arguing with aren’t saying racist stuff towards. And your right the term is opinion so your spin is more of what’s in your mind. Your a dualist, many are racist are. The term black Mecca is Black Atlantans vs. blacks in other cities, Atlanta’s black population often ranks well compared to blacks in different US cities as well as the world. But you term this into Black Atlantans vs. other Atlanta. If these posters were racist they would agree with your definition and boast it, not argue with you over the meaning. A racist person might have racist view of that term.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by arjay57

waronxmas, I don't want to get into this dispute between you and BBC, but this caught my eye. I have several times heard black people object to being lumped together, while at the same time saying things like "black folks don't like X" or "black people see Place Y as special."

Personally I don't have a problem with people having shared beliefs. However, it seems odd to say they do while insisting that they don't.

That's because they don't actually it believe. and realize there stereotype. for instance let's say someone black say blacks don't play soccer there just stating a common stereotype, other wise just talking. But they're not going to ration that as a fact. The problem is if some comes and try to take it to the heart beyond a stereotype but as scientific truth.

"black people see Place Y as special" if that was refering to the black mecca the samething, Atlanta is common in the black dominate media, let me remind you it’s a nick name their nothing scientific about it. but Atlanta is rank high in many field regarding blacks, Atlanta has 2nd largest population, Georgia has largest black population, Georgia has largest percentage of black own business, Atlanta is 3rd in black higher education student, top 5 in affluent blacks. This doesn’t mean every one black will like it here. But some of that cause the black dominate media to be here, i'm mean why seattle?