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Old 04-13-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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Can't disagree. The bigger factors to me though is the $$$$ difference and the splintered Republican field. As another poster pointed out, almost no local money behind Ossoff. Ossoff is empty suit in reality. Seems like the voting Dem public are letting their emotions drive their vote.
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My guess is that a lot of Dems are just unhappy with the way the Republicans have been doing (or undoing) things, especially since Trump got elected.

 
Old 04-13-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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I live in the 14th District, so sadly, I don't have a say.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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this kind of binary dynamic, with both sides spouting garbage talking points designed to get us upset and look away from what's staring us in the face, is why i am so discouraged about voting on tuesday. i still haven't decided if i am going to vote at all.
I really have to admire that kind of commitment to making things better.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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I really have to admire that kind of commitment to making things better.
at this point, arjay, i don't know if voting *is* making anything better anymore. i feel like we're being manipulated into thinking we have a say when we really don't.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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There's a more recent poll out this morning from RRH Elections ("Elections and Campaigns from the Right Perspective") that has Ossoff at 39%. It shows Trump with a net-zero approval/disapproval among those surveyed, which, if accurate, should be good enough to defeat Ossoff's "Make Trump Furious" strategy and keep him below 50%+1.

https://decisiondeskhq.com/news/rrh-...ay-12-in-ga06/

As the commentary points out, the danger for the GOP isn't in the party's strength in the district; it's in the uncertainty about the composition of the turnout. The district overall is pretty strong R (reflected in the polling), but there's a lot of evidence in the early voting that Democrats are turning out like it's a midterm and Republicans are turning out like it's a primary. If that holds on election day, Ossoff can win outright.

I don't think it will hold. If it doesn't, the Republican survivor will win the runoff. But red warning lights are flashing: The GOP may very well lose this thing if their voters turn out in something close to primary numbers.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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at this point, arjay, i don't know if voting *is* making anything better anymore. i feel like we're being manipulated into thinking we have a say when we really don't.
So you'll be equally happy if a Republican wins rather than a Democrat?
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:14 AM
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Can't disagree. The bigger factors to me though is the $$$$ difference and the splintered Republican field. As another poster pointed out, almost no local money behind Ossoff. Ossoff is empty suit in reality. Seems like the voting Dem public are letting their emotions drive their vote.
There's almost no local money behind any of the R candidates, either. Just about all of the ads out there are from PACs.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Just about all of the ads out there are from PACs.
Not for Ossoff! About the only ads you see are Ossoff approving this message, followed immediately by a SuperPAC hit suggesting he's an agent of Al-Qaeda.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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So you'll be equally happy if a Republican wins rather than a Democrat?
to me, especially after watching the debate, the R/D split was not nearly as noticeable to me as the split between the people who were actively running to represent the people of the district with new and fresh ideas, and the people who would vote to sell your soul if the party bigwigs told them to. unfortunately, the second group has all the money and party backing, so it's going to be one of them. if i were going to vote, i'd vote for Rebecca Quigg or Mohammad Ali Bhuiyan, but neither stand a chance.
 
Old 04-13-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Bhuiyan? Yeah, checking out his issues page, I see his position on healthcare is, "I support a healthcare system that works for all." On education, "As a champion of education, I support high-quality education." On jobs, "I believe that small business and entrepreneurship spark and expand economic prosperity by creating jobs."

Good stuff. I can see why you think Ossoff lacks substance.
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