5 points? Underground (Atlanta, Decatur, White: insurance, employment, live)

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by xsdc32

By scared, you mean this is the place where a substantial amount of petty and violent crime occurs, including in broad day light, and to tourists.

These pics should be required for folks moving in, so they would know exactly what they are buying when they move to Atlanta. However, I think the reputation is finally starting to precede them.

Your agenda has grown beyond tiresome.

Unless you can prove that violent crime is happeneing to tourists @ Five Points, you are doing nothing but spreading lies at this point.

[PedestriAnne]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

Why? Because there are a lot of black people in the photos? After reviewing them I'm afraid I can infer no other meaning in your comment.

Well, duh. Everybody knows that:
More than a few black people in one place = "Ghetto"

I'm sure I saw it in a math book somewhere once.

[ecuresident]

The problem with Little 5 points and more notably underground is the crime there. It has nothing to do with the "color" of the people. Underground is a gorgeous area and if they could clean up the area it would take off. The problem is the surrounding area is not one in which you would feel safe walking around at night, and there are robberies and shootings there more often than people would like. Just 2 weeks ago there was a shooting at the underground. Not quite a place you want to take a little kid. Last time we went during the day, there was a crazy homeless guy screaming at everyone. Granted you may find this anywhere, it seems a little more prevelant around that area. Little 5 points is great during the day, but go a few blocks in either direction closer to Ponce, and you get a horde of homeless, prostitutes, etc. Little 5 points is also home to a dynamic range of shops, from normal bars to smoke shops- a lot of goth, alternative, hippie type people, where not everyone is going to feel comfortable walking past a guy with 20 piercings and tattoos, reagardless how nice that person may be.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by ecuresident

The problem with Little 5 points and more notably underground is the crime there. It has nothing to do with the "color" of the people. Undergroun dis a gorgeous area and if they could clean up the area it would take off. THe problem is the surroinding area is not one in which you would feel safe walking around at night, and there are robberies and shootings there more often than people would like. Just 2 weeks ago there was a shooting at the underground. Little 5 points is great during the day, but go a few blocks in either direction closer to Ponce, and you get a horde of homeless, prostitutes, etc. Little 5 points is also home to a dynamic range of shops, from normal bars to smoke shops- a lot of goth, alternative, hippie type people, where not everyone is going to feel comfortable walking past a guy with 20 piercings and tattoos, reagardless how nice that person may be.

This comment would have more weight (not really) if you realized you just combined a dozen neighborhoods into one:

Five Points is in Downtown - This is what this thread is about.

Little Five Points is in Inman Park - A few miles away from Five Points

And Ponce runs through Midtown, Poncey-Highland, Virginia-Highland, parts of O4W, and Decatur.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by johnatl

Your agenda has grown beyond tiresome.

Unless you can prove that violent crime is happeneing to tourists @ Five Points, you are doing nothing but spreading lies at this point.

To be fair, he did say petty and violent crime. That's a very different statement than what you're asking him to prove. Surely there is some petty crime against people, some of whom happen to be tourists, as any realist would expect in any city.

It's an easily provable fact that there is violent crime in the Five Points/Underground area. There was a gang stabbing at Underground just the other day.

Gang charges for seven in Underground Atlanta stabbing *| ajc.com

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by johnatl

Your agenda has grown beyond tiresome.

Unless you can prove that violent crime is happeneing to tourists @ Five Points, you are doing nothing but spreading lies at this point.

It appears thats a comment born from this odd meme:

If some people (white ones) enter neighborhoods with certain types of other people (black ones) they will be attacked and murderized on sight.

I'm not sure what planet these people believe something like that happens in, but it's certainly not this one. Not only are there plenty of people in the pics of different colors who aren't being murderized, I can not think of a single instance where that has ever happened. For some odd reason, there is a set of people who believe it happens every day.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by JPD

To be fair, he did say petty and violent crime. That's a very different statement than what you're asking him to prove. Surely there is some petty crime against people, some of whom happen to be tourists, as any realist would expect in any city.

It's an easily provable fact that there is violent crime in the Five Points/Underground area. There was a gang stabbing at Underground just the other day.

Gang charges for seven in Underground Atlanta stabbing *| ajc.com

While agree things like mugging and graft are common in every urban environment, the link you posted is unrelated to that. It wasn't a random person that was knifed, but police believe it was a gang related fight or a dispute over something that bubbled over.

[mike7586]

Originally Posted by xsdc32

By scared, you mean this is the place where a substantial amount of petty and violent crime occurs, including in broad day light, and to tourists.

These pics should be required for folks moving in, so they would know exactly what they are buying when they move to Atlanta. However, I think the reputation is finally starting to precede them.

So explain WHY the city of Atlanta is adding more people than some of the suburban counties and WHY the city of Atlanta has added over 100,000 people in the last 10 years or so?? If it was such a craphole like you make it out to be I don't think people would be moving INTO the city. There are many good things happening, from streetscape projects in Downtown, Midtown, and Buckhead to proposed new buildings, new restaurants and stores, the Beltline parks, Piedmont Park expansion, more police officers - the city of Atlanta will continue to turn itself around.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MikeandIke27

It does highlight alot of African Americans in this thread

Although in a city known as America's Black Mecca it would be pretty weird if the street life wasn't predominantly African American! No one would consider it unusual if photos of downtown Seattle or San Francisco showed a lot of white people walking around. Every city has its own defining norms.

[xsdc32]

You guys need to travel more and post less.

A) every urban environment isn't chock full of crime
B)Seattle and San Fran would not be all white
C) Atlanta bears little resemblance to LA or Brooklyn or other

Travel more, post less.