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the only thing I saw him prove exists, is his loud mouth and ability to draw a circle
I believe in God. However...
This guy is annoying and simplistic. Yes, a smart atheist could reduce him to dust in minutes.
He's admitting that God could exist within the body of undiscovered knowledge of the universe. But there's the equal possibility that, within that body of undiscovered knowledge, there's proof that God is a construct of the human brain.
He's opening a door to endless possibilities (and endless debate) without really knowing what's behind that door. As I said, simplistic.
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Originally Posted by OzzyRules
Of course. But to humbly accept an ancient religious system is not arrogance. You could criticize it in a lot of ways but it's definitely not arrogance.
But the only way to really assess a person is to observe what they do. Their words and thoughts really don't mean a lot.
And when theists go around claiming they know God exists and unless you get right you are going to hell and your atheism is wrong and try to use the law as a means to silence and control everyone who is not a theists that believes in their particular version of God then that is surely arrogant when they have not a shred of reasonable evidence for their claims. I don't give a rats ass if they accept it - just kept it to yourself.
What a dumb video. It proves nothing, other than that for a specific person's knowledge he may or may not be able to decide whether he believes there's a god.
I see videos with similar themes quite often on You Tube...and they usually start with "Watch _____ totally destroy person X". And then a day later I see person X live on television. Hmm. For someone totally destroyed they rose from the dead!
And here's why I laugh. They say they prove it...which they don't...so that's a lie and they have committed a mortal against god.
This guy is annoying and simplistic. Yes, a smart atheist could reduce him to dust in minutes.
He's admitting that God could exist within the body of undiscovered knowledge of the universe. But there's the equal possibility that, within that body of undiscovered knowledge, there's proof that God is a construct of the human brain.
He's opening a door to endless possibilities (and endless debate) without really knowing what's behind that door. As I said, simplistic.
Quite correct. There are theist arguments that can be made with integrity and validity. This wasn't one of them. It was merely feeding BS to the believers to bolster their Faith.
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Originally Posted by Shiloh1
And when theists go around claiming they know God exists and unless you get right you are going to hell and your atheism is wrong and try to use the law as a means to silence and control everyone who is not a theists that believes in their particular version of God then that is surely arrogant when they have not a shred of reasonable evidence for their claims. I don't give a rats ass if they accept it - just kept it to yourself.
I don't think this is the kind of Christian who would be preaching fire and brimstone to non-believers. But this one at least makes a good point about the unknown. And I still think it's arrogant for a human being to think he can know practically everything about the origin of the universe, whereas a giraffe would know absolutely nothing. As if human beings are really that much greater than other mammals.
I would love to know what a great whale thinks about all of this.
I don't think this is the kind of Christian who would be preaching fire and brimstone to non-believers. But this one at least makes a good point about the unknown. And I still think it's arrogant for a human being to think he can know practically everything about the origin of the universe, whereas a giraffe would know absolutely nothing. As if human beings are really that much greater than other mammals.
I would love to know what a great whale thinks about all of this.
I don't think this is the kind of Christian who would be preaching fire and brimstone to non-believers. But this one at least makes a good point about the unknown. And I still think it's arrogant for a human being to think he can know practically everything about the origin of the universe, whereas a giraffe would know absolutely nothing. As if human beings are really that much greater than other mammals.
I would love to know what a great whale thinks about all of this.
Argument to unknowns is not a good point. It is not a good point with the 'kiddies playing in a sandbox" idiocy to the 'have you looked everywhere in the universe' irrelevancy.
It is a god existing in the world that we inhabit that matters and that is a world we know as much about as a whale knows about the world it lives in. The whale may not know where whalers come from, but it knows they exist, and we know that the evidence does not support a god that is, or was, involved with this world or the universe that we know about.
And frankly a god that exists on a far distant galaxy is one I couldn't care less about and neither, I suspect, could you.
You could win arguments and debates from now until infinity. It doesn't change reality.
A good salesman can convince someone to spend their money. That doesn't make their product worth the money. Just because the salesman succeeded doesn't change the quality of the product.
I never get anything religious on my facebook feed...perhaps they linking you from your facebook searches.
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