Do you think Arizona will go red in the 2008 election? (Ajo: 2015, home)

[sheena]

Originally Posted by nitram

Vegas odds are it comes down to Hillary vs Guillani at election time. Hillary wins!!!

God help us!

[wit-nit]

It'll take more than God. And right now I don't think anyone of the front runners are worth a hoot.
Ron Paul has good ideas, but he doesn't look or act presidential. He may be on the tad bit old side for many people.

[odinloki1]

Originally Posted by bobinverted

Arizona will always go red. People should realize that social security is welfare and people on welfare shouldn't be alowed to vote. That's all I have to say.

and lets take all the poor people and gather them up and execute them, save them the trouble of slowly starving. Then lets take anyone who is stupid and grind them up and they can be food for animals! That'll motivate those poor people to go out and get a second or third job!

[sheena]

Originally Posted by odinloki1

and lets take all the poor people and gather them up and execute them, save them the trouble of slowly starving. Then lets take anyone who is stupid and grind them up and they can be food for animals! That'll motivate those poor people to go out and get a second or third job!

All we are asking is that they put down the crack pipe and get a first job, that would be most helpful to them.

[dwallphx]

Originally Posted by sheena

All we are asking is that they put down the crack pipe and get a first job, that would be most helpful to them.

Expecting a crack-head to "put down the pipe and get a job" is what many people would call, a "pipe dream."

[MotleyCrew]

I think if we had a chance of actually closing the border, we could put a curb on the drugs making their way into our inner cities.

[azhiker]

I expect AZ to go blue state, and soon. It's all about demographics. The hispanic population is growing fast, and they vote disproportionately Democrat; not quite to the extent that blacks do, which is practically an iron law, but hugely in favor of Democrats nonetheless.

Yes, there's a huge difference between Social Security and Welfare. People pay into Social Security their entire working lives. In essence, they paid with their own sweat for what they receive as seniors. They earned their Social Security. Welfare is not based on having earned anything. Welfare is a pure giveaway (well intentioned though it is). Not comparable at all.

>>Why do people keep voting republican when it does them no good?<<

If your concern is about other people living off your taxes (as your comments about SS and Welfare indicate), and you are trying to equate that with Republican policies, I can't even begin to tell you how far off base you are about who advocates higher taxes and income redistribution.

[sheena]

Originally Posted by azhiker

I expect AZ to go blue state, and soon. It's all about demographics. The hispanic population is growing fast, and they vote disproportionately Democrat; not quite to the extent that blacks do, which is practically an iron law, but hugely in favor of Democrats nonetheless.

Yes, there's a huge difference between Social Security and Welfare. People pay into Social Security their entire working lives. In essence, they paid with their own sweat for what they receive as seniors. They earned their Social Security. Welfare is not based on having earned anything. Welfare is a pure giveaway (well intentioned though it is). Not comparable at all.

>>Why do people keep voting republican when it does them no good?<<

If your concern is about other people living off your taxes (as your comments about SS and Welfare indicate), and you are trying to equate that with Republican policies, I can't even begin to tell you how far off base you are about who advocates higher taxes and income redistribution.

The hispanic population coming in are illegal. Are they voting?

[azhiker]

Originally Posted by sheena

The hispanic population coming in are illegal. Are they voting?

There are vast numbers coming in illegally, true, but a fair number are entering legally too, and yes, they vote .

[sheena]

Originally Posted by azhiker

There are vast numbers coming in illegally, true, but a fair number are entering legally too, and yes, they vote .

Maybe the legal ones will vote republican My husband is a legal hispanic born in Cuba and votes Republican.