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You can continue to live in ignorance. I'm trying to explain to you why you think "Afrocentrists relate themselves to Egypt" but I can clearly see that information went right over your head as you refused to listen to anything I or anyone else has to say. Everything I wrote in my previous post answers the core questions of this debate.
But they are all invalid points. Not a legitimate one in the bunch. Since you obviously subscribe to this nonsense, it is you who are living in ignorance.
What I am still waiting for is for someone to show me a real connection between Egypt and the African American Afrocentrists that are trying to claim it. Nothing you have said explains why someone looks 1500 miles away from their real place of origin to a mythical one that has nothing to do with them.
Or perhaps I am being unfair to you? Would you like to take the opportunity to say that you disagree with the nonsense and you also would like Afrocentrists, who are largely African Americans, study their real origins?
Do you have some good solid sources that support the statement that African-Americans are obsessed with Egypt?
I've never heard that before. Is this purely in 'Academia circles'? It seems that you are in Academia, and getting into arguments with African-American students over Egypt? Maybe some personal agenda you have or something? Is that what this thread is all about?
I've never heard your average African-American person go on about Egypt, nor have I seen any 'obsessive' references to it among African-American rap music, pop music, film, literature, etc.
So what you want him to link up a poll or something? It's quite extensive the desire of many Blacks to link up with Ancient Egypt. I see it on this board, Twitter and numerous other forums. It's a major focus of the African-American Studies dept at Howard University for example.
But they are all invalid points. Not a legitimate one in the bunch. Since you obviously subscribe to this nonsense, it is you who are living in ignorance.
I never said I was an Afrocentrist, your just assuming I was. You keep on bringing up " What are the historical connections between Egypt and Afrocentrics(who you assume are of West African descent)" My answer to that is it doesn't really matter. The reason for that is because Afrocentrists are looking at Egypt from a Pan-African viewpoint. They are not saying that African Americans are solely the Egyptian people. When they say we, they are talking about all African people collectively. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend. Your making this much more complicated than it actually is. You have to understand that this type of perspective, goes beyond just individual ethnicity and accepts the various ethnicities and cultural differences that consist among African people.
So what you want him to link up a poll or something? It's quite extensive the desire of many Blacks to link up with Ancient Egypt. I see it on this board, Twitter and numerous other forums. It's a major focus of the African-American Studies dept at Howard University for example.
Thanks for the support, but shouldn't even treat that question with any seriousness. It is a diversionary tactic, and nothing more. He knows what I am talking about, and if he didn't, a five second google search could open his eyes.
I don't care about Greece and Rome. I've learned enough. My focus is studying what we have done as a people. If you believe Egypt wasn't largely "black" then that is on you. And please name the Afrocentrists on this thread that is trying to claim Egypt. Two of us have already said we're not.
It's not a question of "believing" anything. It's a question of passing of beliefs as fact. The DNA evidence simply doesn't support the notion that Ancient Egyptians had any connection with African-Americans.
If you want to learn about your people there are numerous peoples you could study that did great things that are actually connected to you genetically and culturally.
I never said I was an Afrocentrist, your just assuming I was. You keep on bringing up " What are the historical connections between Egypt and Afrocentrics(who you assume are of West African descent)" My answer to that is it doesn't really matter. The reason for that is because Afrocentrists are looking at Egypt from a Pan-African viewpoint. They are not saying that African Americans are solely the Egyptian people. When they say we, they are talking about all African people collectively. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend. Your making this much more complicated than it actually is. You have to understand that this type of perspective, goes beyond just individual ethnicity and accepts the various ethnicities and cultural differences that consist among African people.
But of course it does matter. Pan-African is a nonsense perceptive, and obviously so. I do not claim Persia as a "Pan-Eurasianist," although they spoke and Indo-European language, and I thus have more connection to Iran that Afro-centrists do to Egypt. Among the people's of the earth, only Afrocentrists want this absurd perspective applied to them.
As for you being an Afrocentrist, you have pretty much revealed yourself in their camp by siding with some of their greatest nonsense.
But of course it does matter. Pan-African is a nonsense perceptive....
That's your opinion but that's not necessarily fact.
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and obviously so. I do not claim Persia as a "Pan-Eurasianist," although they spoke and Indo-European language, and I thus have more connection to Iran that Afro-centrists do to Egypt.
I could care less. If you want to believe that then go right ahead.
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Among the people's of the earth, only Afrocentrists want this absurd position applied to them.
As for you being an Afrocentrist, you have pretty much revealed yourself in their camp by siding with some of their greatest nonsense.
I'm sure Egyptians today would be greatly offended because I said "most Egyptians have Arab ancestry". I'm sure they would be greatly offended as that was enough for you to label me an Afrocentrist.
It's not a question of "believing" anything. It's a question of passing of beliefs as fact. The DNA evidence simply doesn't support the notion that Ancient Egyptians had any connection with African-Americans.
If you want to learn about your people there are numerous peoples you could study that did great things that are actually connected to you genetically and culturally.
Yeah see you're too quick to jump on the bandwagon to say something against Black Americans like you usually do without reading the entire conversation in context. Where did I say that Black Americans are connected to Ancient Egyptians by any chance of science? We have said numerous times that most of us do not know of any connection to ancient Egypt. We just acknowledge it as a historic place in Africa and of this planet. And did you also miss where I said that we need to study our true selves and identity and nobody can do that but us? As far as pushing out belief as fact, that's what's been forced to us in the school system as fact only to find out out that many things we were taught wasn't true. Just because it's said in school doesn't make it truth.
But of course it does matter. Pan-African is a nonsense perceptive, and obviously so. I do not claim Persia as a "Pan-Eurasianist," although they spoke and Indo-European language, and I thus have more connection to Iran that Afro-centrists do to Egypt. Among the people's of the earth, only Afrocentrists want this absurd perspective applied to them.
As for you being an Afrocentrist, you have pretty much revealed yourself in their camp by siding with some of their greatest nonsense.
So, you are allowed to claim a connection to Persia based on a linguistic connection, but people with origins to a continent can't claim a connection based on a land mass? What sense does that make? Odd........
It's exactly what it is and thread needs to be closed.
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