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Old 04-22-2024, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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There is no way to prevent arthritis.
Depends on which type of arthritis one has.

RA is caused by inflammation. Inflammation can be linked to high sugar consumption, so there is a dietary component. You can research this on line....

You're right, OA is often a joint wearing out or joint covering getting thin (hence bone-on-bone pain)...diet (except to reduce weight) can not prevent or cure it.

But being overweight puts more stress on the joints and can aggravate OA...
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:17 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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I did.
And the consensus is----
There is no definite way to prevent arthritis, as certain risk factors—such as sex, genetics and age—can’t be controlled. However, certain lifestyle factors can increase the risk of arthritis and are preventable.

So, yes, you definitely can reduce the risk, but you cannot prevent it.
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Old 04-22-2024, 08:15 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I eat like the MIND diet, but even a little stricter (basically don't eat any of the "only once or twice a week" foods.)

I have one copy of APOE4, and as to the intermittent fasting, I did 16:8 (fasting 16, eating 8) for six months and never once tested positive for ketones after 16 hours.

I've mostly backed off of that now and just do a couple days a week like that, but honestly when I was doing it strictly for months since I never went into ketosis and I didn't lose any weight on it at all (although I didn't care a lot about that), I'm not sure I'll even keep up the couple times a week.
Interesting.
I am down 30-35 pounds since heart surgery and changing my diet. But my diet is meat-cheese-eggs and some few vegetables.
I never looked into or thought much about ketosis. I do know that dang near every processed food type I can think of has a "keto friendly" variety. Last night I heard a friend say she had "Keto brown sugar". Keto this and keto that - apparently the food industry has found a way to capitalize on the keto fad.


Basically, I am a carnivore about 80% of the time. The other 20% I just do the best I can. Breakfast is hamburger steak (1/3 pound) and egg. That's it. Nothing else. It holds me until around 2 when I'll get hungry again. Used to eat a pork chop and egg, but hamburger is better for me. Been doing it that way for a long time.


I've never discussed my diet with a doctor. But no doctor has ever asked, so that kind of tells you something.
I'll be 79 in a couple months. 5'10"/180. I am a very active man. No cognitive decline. I can still do a 5 star Sudoku.


PS: Wife fixed chicken fajitas tonight. I hate chicken fajitas, but I'll never say anything to her. A fajita ought to have steak in it, not chicken. Peppers and onions were good, though.
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Old 04-22-2024, 08:23 PM
 
Location: SLC
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Wow, that's interesting. Maybe you're an outlier.

Dr. Dean Ornish saved Bill Clinton's life (after numerous stents and quad bypass surgery) and reversed his heart disease with a diet similar to the MIND Diet. I, personally, have never heard of anyone preventing heart disease, diabetes, or arthritis with the way of eating you cited.

But you do you.
Maybe, but might want to recheck your information. Bill Clinton went on the Esselstyn diet and not the Ornish diet.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...104272588.html

https://esselstynfamilyfoundation.or...tart-guide.pdf

My cardiologist also advised it but it is very hard to strictly adhere to as it is quite restrictive. Esselstyn does present some evidence of reversing arteriosclerosis, but the diet is very hard to conform to and I am needing take some liberties with it. It is also quite different from the MIND diet, though virtually every sensible diet has some commonalities.
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Old 04-22-2024, 08:24 PM
 
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Basically, I am a carnivore about 80% of the time. The other 20% I just do the best I can. Breakfast is hamburger steak (1/3 pound) and egg. That's it. Nothing else. It holds me until around 2 when I'll get hungry again. Used to eat a pork chop and egg, but hamburger is better for me. Been doing it that way for a long time.
I imagine, given you heart disease history, that your doctor keeps a close eye on your blood work. I could never eat this way, but it's great if you like it and it's working for you.
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Old 04-22-2024, 08:58 PM
 
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The one thing that is common in all diets is to get rid of sugary drinks and sweets. After that, I think it's possible that some people are just ultra sensitive to other carbs, like whole grains and fruits, and they need to limit those even more. That's me.
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Old 04-22-2024, 09:06 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I imagine, given you heart disease history, that your doctor keeps a close eye on your blood work. I could never eat this way, but it's great if you like it and it's working for you.
You would think so. But I have a perfect EKG, and perfect blood work, so he just looks at it once a year.
Cholesterol 134; triglycerides 64. Blood pressure and all that is fine. BUT!..... I work at it. Hard. I almost never miss a workout, and my workouts are complete, head to toe cardio/strength/balance/flexibility events.
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Old Yesterday, 06:44 AM
 
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You would think so. But I have a perfect EKG, and perfect blood work, so he just looks at it once a year.
Cholesterol 134; triglycerides 64. Blood pressure and all that is fine. BUT!..... I work at it. Hard. I almost never miss a workout, and my workouts are complete, head to toe cardio/strength/balance/flexibility events.
If there's one test I'd insist your doc do it's a Cardiac CT Calcium test.
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Old Yesterday, 08:35 AM
 
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There is no way to prevent arthritis.
Well, I suppose dying young might prevent it...
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Old Yesterday, 10:06 AM
 
Location: East TN
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The KetoFlex 12/3 diet has been shown in studies to help with cognitive decline. If interested, check out Dr. Dale Bredesen. It is not full keto, but allows your brain the flexibility to use both glucose and ketones. Ketones have been shown to help the brain, so it is a minimum 12 hour fast so you will hopefully go into ketosis by morning. If you have the Apoe4 gene they suggest 14-16 hours if you can do it.

Also, if interested, read or listen to Dr. Mary Newport, a neonatal specialist, talk about diet and how she helped her husband who had early-onset dementia. The changes in his MoCa score were quite amazing (he was an accountant), and she figures he probably had an extra 4 years of a much better life. Think unable to read and unable to tie his own shoes to not not accomplishing both but also comprehending (and we are talking Scientific journal magazines, not low level reading).

Dr. Bredesen's books are quite informative and provides specifics on the various vitamins and nutrients needed by our bodies.
I do that without even doing it on purpose. I eat dinner at 7:00 pm, don't eat again before bed, get up at 7:30 am, and eat around 9:00. I know some eat breakfast earlier, but isn't this most folks' typical way of eating?
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