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Old 04-22-2024, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Just ran across this article from Harvard on a study that helps seniors improve cognitive decline--the MIND diet.

The results were pretty impressive.

Thought I'd post a link so you can read for yourself.

(we found it interesting to evaluate our current way of eating with their recommendations. We plan to eat more beans and more salads)

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...ews/mind-diet/

How are you doing?
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Old 04-22-2024, 01:25 PM
 
Location: SLC
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Interesting study. Small and short time span to be definitive but shows potential...
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:07 PM
 
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The KetoFlex 12/3 diet has been shown in studies to help with cognitive decline. If interested, check out Dr. Dale Bredesen. It is not full keto, but allows your brain the flexibility to use both glucose and ketones. Ketones have been shown to help the brain, so it is a minimum 12 hour fast so you will hopefully go into ketosis by morning. If you have the Apoe4 gene they suggest 14-16 hours if you can do it.

Also, if interested, read or listen to Dr. Mary Newport, a neonatal specialist, talk about diet and how she helped her husband who had early-onset dementia. The changes in his MoCa score were quite amazing (he was an accountant), and she figures he probably had an extra 4 years of a much better life. Think unable to read and unable to tie his own shoes to not not accomplishing both but also comprehending (and we are talking Scientific journal magazines, not low level reading).

Dr. Bredesen's books are quite informative and provides specifics on the various vitamins and nutrients needed by our bodies.
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:48 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Just ran across this article from Harvard on a study that helps seniors improve cognitive decline--the MIND diet.

The results were pretty impressive.

Thought I'd post a link so you can read for yourself.

(we found it interesting to evaluate our current way of eating with their recommendations. We plan to eat more beans and more salads)

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...ews/mind-diet/

How are you doing?
Whole grains..Green Leafy... nuts?


No. First of all I have no faith in Harvard. Secondly, that's the diet that nearly killed me; quadruple bypass surgery saved the day.
So I changed. I eat meat/eggs/cheese and cook with lard or actual butter. Eat chicken when I have to. Fish is OK, but I prefer red meat and pork. .....I never eat salads. Don't eat anything processed.

I've been doing it this way for three years. Age 79. No sign of decline. Full recovery from surgery.



Anyone notice they included margarine and butter in the same sentence? Margarine is just a chemical concoction.
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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...Anyone notice they included margarine and butter in the same sentence? Margarine is just a chemical concoction.
Yes, and if you read the article it's because one has saturated fat and the other trans fat, both of which are mostly to be avoided when following that diet.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:38 PM
 
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Whole grains..Green Leafy... nuts?


No. First of all I have no faith in Harvard. Secondly, that's the diet that nearly killed me; quadruple bypass surgery saved the day.
So I changed. I eat meat/eggs/cheese and cook with lard or actual butter. Eat chicken when I have to. Fish is OK, but I prefer red meat and pork. .....I never eat salads. Don't eat anything processed.

I've been doing it this way for three years. Age 79. No sign of decline. Full recovery from surgery.



Anyone notice they included margarine and butter in the same sentence? Margarine is just a chemical concoction.
Wow, that's interesting. Maybe you're an outlier.

Dr. Dean Ornish saved Bill Clinton's life (after numerous stents and quad bypass surgery) and reversed his heart disease with a diet similar to the MIND Diet. I, personally, have never heard of anyone preventing heart disease, diabetes, or arthritis with the way of eating you cited.

But you do you.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:40 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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I, personally, have never heard of anyone preventing heart disease, diabetes, or arthritis with the way of eating you cited.
There is no way to prevent arthritis.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:42 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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I eat meat/eggs/cheese and cook with lard or actual butter. Eat chicken when I have to. Fish is OK, but I prefer red meat and pork. .....I never eat salads. Don't eat anything processed.
You eat like my best friend's mother ate. She died just shy of her 101st birthday!
She LOVED a good steak
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:58 PM
 
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Ketones have been shown to help the brain, so it is a minimum 12 hour fast so you will hopefully go into ketosis by morning. If you have the Apoe4 gene they suggest 14-16 hours if you can do it.
I eat like the MIND diet, but even a little stricter (basically don't eat any of the "only once or twice a week" foods.)

I have one copy of APOE4, and as to the intermittent fasting, I did 16:8 (fasting 16, eating 8) for six months and never once tested positive for ketones after 16 hours.

I've mostly backed off of that now and just do a couple days a week like that, but honestly when I was doing it strictly for months since I never went into ketosis and I didn't lose any weight on it at all (although I didn't care a lot about that), I'm not sure I'll even keep up the couple times a week.
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Old 04-22-2024, 06:02 PM
 
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First of all I have no faith in Harvard. Secondly, that's the diet that nearly killed me; quadruple bypass surgery saved the day.
So I changed. I eat meat/eggs/cheese and cook with lard or actual butter. Eat chicken when I have to. Fish is OK, but I prefer red meat and pork. .....I never eat salads. Don't eat anything processed.

I've been doing it this way for three years. Age 79. No sign of decline. Full recovery from surgery.
Some people do well with this kind of eating. It suits certain physiological and genetic profiles, but certainly not all. It wouldn't work for me. Definitely not for APOE4 carriers who do not process cholesterol well.
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