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God's Love is unconditional. He loves us whether we are saints or sinners... the key is to love Him in return.
Hell is not a permanent place or condition... it is created by men's souls being out of harmony with the will of our Heavenly Father... which is to Love. Hell is a place of darkness and mental torment rather than light and love and peace and joy. If a person, who becomes a spirit upon death, finds their first place of abode in Hell... there is a way to get out... it is by seeking forgiveness and Love from our Heavenly Father... this is when you know He loves us unconditionally.
If you have a child and your child goes astray, do you not love him unconditionally? Your love doesn't stop because he did something wrong or bad... you try to help him get back on the right track. And this is so with our Heavenly Father... He's always there for us, but we have to be willing to ask for His help... He doesn't impose His will on us. So therefore, He is different than you or I would be with our children... as we want them to follow our rules and we make sure they're doing it while they are living under our roof... and when they don't follow what we require of them, then what happens? They are temporarily punished in some way... they are restricted from doing this, that or the other until they have paid the penalty for their misbehavior... same thing here applies with our Heavenly Father... let's just say this, when people go to Hell, they are grounded until they see the error of their ways and change themselves for the better... and this just involves going to our Heavenly Father and asking for forgiveness. It can't be any easier and simpler than that.
Our judgment is an ongoing daily occurrence... we will not meet our Heavenly Father for a "day of judgment"... if someone feels that what they did isn't a sin, then maybe it's not... one way to recognize sin is to listen to your conscience... if you do something and you immediately suffer for it, then that was probably a sin.
This you should know...a man's will is stronger than our Heavenly Father's will for him... so if a man has made up his mind about something and he allows his free will to rule supreme in his life... our Heavenly Father doesn't arbitrarily step on his toes. And by the way, there was no Satan... this account is merely symbolic of the power of man's free will.
We are forgiven when we ask for it... but it takes an action on our part to accomplish this by going to our Father... forgiveness just doesn't fall out of the sky like raindrops... but it is there for us, if and when, we seek for it.
Again, contradictions.
You say that His love is unconditional and with your last remarks, you show the conditions.
You mentioned that god does not intervene.
I as you also.
I take it then that that would mean that the God you know never punishes, right?
No Sodom, no great flood and basically no O T?
Do you believe in talking animals and a water walking Jesus?
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As I.
You are not the usual believer. This is good.
I take it then that that would mean that the God you know never punishes, right?
No Sodom, no great flood and basically no O T?
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DL
Nope, it's all a bunch of jibba jabba to me. People chose to love and hate, including themselves. Folks were pretty paranoid 2 millenia ago. I think people take their own reality with them to the afterlife and are likely to suffer their own self created consequenses. If one was to murder, they are likely to suffer the realities that others have after crossing over reviewing the ripple effects of the murder. Then they can chose to remain in that relm (most people would call hell), or move to the light of God to higher spiritual relms and love.
Here is a prime example of self hatred, encouraging spreading the word of hatred (one of many).....
God loves all of us but he can't allow sin to ente heaven so unbelievers and idolaters go to hell.
I see you were too lazy to read the prodigal son.
Sin was born in heaven so your statement shows how little you even know about your own Bible.
As to hell, God would not create such an immoral place.
Answer this honestly to prove it to yourself.
Is it justice that a man can only sin for 120 years and then must suffer torture in hell for 12000000000000000000+ years?
If you think that that is justice then do not bother coming back. You will have shown that you have no morals or sense of justice and just follow dogma like a puppy chasing a bich's tit.
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