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The Bible has been open for misinterpretation for hundreds of years. People as far back as when Jesus was on the earth during his 33 years have taken the scriptures/teachings and twisted them for their own profit, whether monetary or to justify their choices.
Why do so many people disregard the Bible and say it isn't relevant for our life today? When you're reading the Old Testament realize that they are stories that show us who God is, how the world was created, and hopefully we're smart enough to learn from what people did and said, and how God responded to them. Will God "smite" us if we have sex outside marriage? I haven't seen it, but I have seen the spread of STDs.
In the New Testament Paul talks about homosexuality. Is it wrong to be with another person from the gender, sexually? You bet. But only if you agree with the Bible and are a Christian.
The Bible is the inspired Word of God. There are many people who will try and take the discussion to the far ends saying ...oh but what about this error or discrepancy etc. etc. etc....here's the deal. If there are discrepanies, so be it. BUT, even if that has happened, which I do agree it has, the message has still stayed the same. Look at the message of each book and you will see that they have stayed the same.
I don't believe that the Bible was written by man at all. The writings of the Bible were inspired by God and it was only written down by man. If you're open to the miracles of God, you'll know exactly what I'm saying.
If the Bible is written by God, then why did man select what books should be included in the Bible? Or did God do that as well?
Also, what about translations? The Bible wasn't originally written in English (of course) so did God do the translations as well? What about different translations and versions that use different words? Are they all written by God and literally true?
Finally, different churches and dominations use different versions of the Bible, with different books. The Catholic Bible, is different from the Bible Luthrens use, which is different from the Bible Eastern Orthodoxes use, etc. I don't even want to get into the different churches in Egypt and Ethiopia! If the Bible is literally true and written by God, then which church has got the correct one?
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Written by men, and subject to all the weaknesses, mistakes, and underhandedness of men.
This argument is used all time, but it can be more wrong. Yes, men put pin to paper BUT it was God that did the inspiring. That is the key difference, and what unbelievers love to overlook.
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If the Bible is written by God, then why did man select what books should be included in the Bible? Or did God do that as well?
Men under the inspiration of God were guided as to the completion of the canon.
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Also, what about translations? The Bible wasn't originally written in English (of course) so did God do the translations as well? What about different translations and versions that use different words? Are they all written by God and literally true?
What about translations? I don't like the "modern versions" but the Greek, Hebrew,Geneva, and KJV are just fine with me. The Bible will always be attacked. Why? because it's truth.
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...If the Bible is literally true and written by God, then which church has got the correct one?
THE CHURCH has God's word. The above mentioned are just denomonations.
Men under the inspiration of God were guided as to the completion of the canon.
What about translations? I don't like the "modern versions" but the Greek, Hebrew,Geneva, and KJV are just fine with me. The Bible will always be attacked. Why? because it's truth.
THE CHURCH has God's word. The above mentioned are just denomonations.
Thank you for your response. Although I am not a Christian, I am very interested to know how people who believe that the Bible is literal truth deal with these issues.
But I am still not clear on two things.
(1.) If the Bible is literal truth (i.e. every word and saying it literally true, not symbolic), how do you deal with different translations? I mean, different translations and different versions of the Bible use different words and phrases. Are these versions still literally true or is it just the original Greek and Hebrew that is true?
(2.) When you say"The Church", which church? As you probably know, different churches have different versions of the Bible, with different books included in each particular version. If the Bible is literally true, which one of these versions is literally true? I mean, if the Ethiopian Church uses a Bible with books in it that, for example, the Lutheran Bible lacks, are those books also literal truth? Also, over the years, Bibles were written containing different books. Were those versions also literal truth and if they were, then why didn't they contain all the books in them?
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This argument is used all time, but it can be more wrong. Yes, men put pin to paper BUT it was God that did the inspiring. That is the key difference, and what unbelievers love to overlook.
And the so called believers choose to overlook that belief is not fact.
I don't believe that the Bible was written by man at all. The writings of the Bible were inspired by God and it was only written down by man. If you're open to the miracles of God, you'll know exactly what I'm saying.
This explains QUITE a bit....
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How many threads have we had on this subject? Shouldn't we have a "merge topics" function with vBulletin?
It's not that the subject is so bad, it's the countless threads that seem to come up talking about the SAME THING over, and over, and over, and over again.
It would seem to me that some people are just trying to "spread the word", which to me is SPAM!
They're not selling widgets, pharmaceuticals, porn sites, or magazine subscriptions. They're selling religion.
THIS IS SPAM, and these topics should be deleted. They're repetitive, and serve no purpose besides advertising, or just plain inciting an argument..
How is it spam? what are we promoting that you're being asked to purchase? If you don't like them, then don't post in them. Ignore them the way I do other topics in the P&OC forum. Ah yes, it's other controversies...yes, and it seems religion is always an "other controversy".
These topics may not serve a purpose for you, but evidently they serve a purpose for countless others. And quite honestly they are not repititive. People's posts may be repeititive from other threads, but it's because they're intertwined...but yet they are fully different topics.
In my honest opinion these threads make people think and interact on religious issues. People who don't want to be bothered with them should remember there are many other threads that they can post in.
And lastly, not selling religion. That remark is absolutely ridiculous and offensive. It's not about religion. It's about a relationship with christ.
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