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I don't need to substantiate anything that is common knowledge.
People don't have to believe if they don't want to.
Common knowledge in whose universe? But whatevs, that's fine. You can reject someone else's experience, cited evidence, etc in the service of belief if you're a True Believer. Needn't even admit the POSSIBILITY that there could be ANY truth to it. It's one way to roll, I guess.
Not trying to be pedantic but evangelical <> fundamentalist. You are battling what you regard as myths about one by pointing out the less strident aspects of the other.
I grew up in fundamentalism. I never even MET a person of color until I left home and got out into the Real World. And to this day I don't think you'll find un-closeted LGBTQ persons in even evangelical churches as they are for the most part not welcoming places for that kind of diversity. For that you have to get into more liberal precincts of Christianity. Even this leader of UK evangelicals quoted in the article was using opposition to trans persons as some sort of shibboleth.
Seems like fundamentalism is a component of a more broad based evangelical realm.
Both groups seem to believe in basically the same thing...
Fundamentalists just do more complaining about the world at large and how evil it is. They want you to be "saved".
Your typical evangelical doesn't get as worked up about the world....They seem to be more oriented toward being "born again"... and how Jesus can fulfill you with his joy and all that.
Unfortunately, I don't think you will find a lot of "diversity" in either camp.
Probably more than there used to be but like MLK said.... "Sunday morning is the most segregated day of the week".
Mainline churches are a lot more focused on liberal issues, as opposed to the social issues that Jesus spoke about.
So Jesus didn't say to be kind and generous to the strangers among you? Did he ever say to think the worst of them, assume they are all criminals and terrorists and competitors for jobs you'd actually want, and turn them away in their hour of greatest need? Did he say to give people who are hungry food, or make them buy it? Did Jesus not say that to offer kindness and aid to the least among you is to do the same for him?
Really the difference between the liberal denominations and the illiberal ones is just what things Jesus commented on that each group wishes to pay attention to.
Do you honestly think that liberal mainline churches are somehow more integrated?
Mainline churches are a lot more focused on liberal issues, as opposed to the social issues that Jesus spoke about.
The churches I'm somewhat familiar with here where I live? Yes, the liberal mainline churches welcome anybody to come and worship with them
The social issues Jesus spoke are ARE liberal issues. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the homeless, and, generally, help those who happen to be less fortunate than yourself.
The churches I'm somewhat familiar with here where I live? Yes, the liberal mainline churches welcome anybody to come and worship with them
The social issues Jesus spoke are ARE liberal issues. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the homeless, and, generally, help those who happen to be less fortunate than yourself.
I'm afraid to ask what he thinks the important "social issues" are. Probably mostly involves conformity in sexual and adjacent matters, I'd wager.
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