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Old 04-10-2024, 08:23 AM
 
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The main difference between Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the spiritualization of utopia vs the plan to create it on earth. Christianity itself spiritualized it much less when Christianity spread through Rome, but it was more metaphorical but still earthly . However there is a usury fueled sect trying to create heave on earth. Are you ready for "heaven on earth"?






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Old 04-10-2024, 09:42 AM
 
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3. The Golden Ages
55:3.1 (624.7) During this age of light and life the world increasingly prospers under the fatherly rule of the Planetary Sovereign. By this time the worlds are progressing under the momentum of one language, one religion, and, on normal spheres, one race. But this age is not perfect. These worlds still have well-appointed hospitals, homes for the care of the sick. There still remain the problems of caring for accidental injuries and the inescapable infirmities attendant upon the decrepitude of old age and the disorders of senility. Disease has not been entirely vanquished, neither have the earth animals been subdued in perfection; but such worlds are like Paradise in comparison with the early times of primitive man during the pre-Planetary Prince age. You would instinctively describe such a realm—could you be suddenly transported to a planet in this stage of development—as heaven on earth.

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...light-and-life
 
Old 04-10-2024, 09:46 AM
 
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Heaven can be considered largely a metaphor for a realm of peace, cooperation, love, and balance. You don't need any religion or spirituality to work towards that here and now; the only place we can confirm. And it's something that we can all have in common. I.e. the basics of respect, working together, if not loving at least not hating, and avoiding extremes.

There's the easier way of the common (mentioned above), and the hard road of pushing one's personal preferences onto everything, and never succeeding.

"Coming heaven on earth?" There's no sign of that currently. We are feverishly going in the opposite direction.
 
Old 04-10-2024, 12:56 PM
 
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Heaven can be considered largely a metaphor for a realm of peace, cooperation, love, and balance. You don't need any religion or spirituality to work towards that here and now; the only place we can confirm. And it's something that we can all have in common. I.e. the basics of respect, working together, if not loving at least not hating, and avoiding extremes.

There's the easier way of the common (mentioned above), and the hard road of pushing one's personal preferences onto everything, and never succeeding.

"Coming heaven on earth?" There's no sign of that currently. We are feverishly going in the opposite direction.





Yes we are according to these very old plans. Its nothing new to a modern Christian with some very important differences. No surprise since they use the same sources . Whats more is they were manipulated to believe this to help it along.



In the Christian concept "God" controls world events leading up to the apocalypse. There will be war and famine. Then Christ will slaughter billions , defeat evil and the new heavens and earth will descend.







The difference with these Kabbalists is they gained control of the financial system. They no doubt learned this all the way back to Alexandria on how to use money for usury as described in the bible.. They plan to do the same thing with war to wipe most people out and then create "heaven" here on earth. Isaac Luria stated that they must become their own messiah, so they are. They plan on doing this with artificial wombs , eggs from skin cells and then to grow androgynous "perfect" humans like a homunculus and with AI controlled slaves like a golem. They have been funding the technology and promoting the sexless androgynous society which is their heaven.


Obedience to Yahweh was only when knowledge was unripe and dangerous. Now they plan to defeat Yahweh, the god of chaos, with the ripe fruit of the tree of knowledge they will steal from Esau who tended the once poisonous unripe fruit of knowledge .
 
Old 04-10-2024, 07:16 PM
 
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Old 04-17-2024, 08:43 PM
 
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Heaven can be considered largely a metaphor for a realm of peace, cooperation, love, and balance. You don't need any religion or spirituality to work towards that here and now; the only place we can confirm. And it's something that we can all have in common. I.e. the basics of respect, working together, if not loving at least not hating, and avoiding extremes.
There's the easier way of the common (mentioned above), and the hard road of pushing one's personal preferences onto everything, and never succeeding.
"Coming heaven on earth?" There's no sign of that currently. We are feverishly going in the opposite direction.
No sign ? or really a BIG sign - 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13 and Matthew chapter 24 and Luke 21:11.
As the old adage goes ' it is darkest before the dawn ' .
When the powers in charge are saying, " Peace and Security......" that Rosy saying can lead people down that old Primrose Path Not to safety but those words found at 1st Thess. 5:2-3 will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14 before Jesus takes the action as found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-15.
Then, there will be Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill, the figurative 'sheep' at the time of Matt. 25:31-34,37.
 
Old 04-18-2024, 08:05 AM
 
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Again you are talking about the Christian interpretation. When Christianity became the dominate region in Rome the interpretation was that the kingdom on earth had arrived. It was optimistic and a spiritual heaven until such time the end of all with the new heaven and earth. Chrysostom would be a good example of moving to amillennialism.


The problem is we can trace various times of revival of the end times premillenial approach such as Samuel Untermyer and Darby that was behind the movement to create a climate sympathetic the modern state of Israel. Thus the Christians are being fed an eschatology somewhat consistent with the Kabbalistic version being implemented , but false. The Christian texts are clear the end times was during the time of Christ.



Jude.
17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

Hebrews 9
But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27

What is consistent is the end times of the Kabbalah due in no small part being a product of the medieval period and beyond. They intend to make heaven on earth themselves. They plan to do this by removing most of humanity in the apocalypse. Heaven will start underground in a shinning darkness(Judaism was always hostile to the sun). That is why we see under ground bunkers , the ramp up to world war artificial intelligence, androgyny where the cycle of birth and death considered a curse is ended.

I have no idea if more powerful force behind it are high jacking this Sabbataen/Frankist interpretation, actually believe it or seems just like a good plan or what.

One thing where I agree with evangelicals is Israel could never have been created by chance,. They think its god. I think it is a banking and financial cartel to stage all this. They created Israel and any in depth research into it shows this to be so.

I might add that if correct we are all in a lot of danger.
 
Old 04-18-2024, 02:16 PM
 
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...........................................One thing where I agree with evangelicals is Israel could never have been created by chance,. They think its god. I think it is a banking and financial cartel to stage all this. They created Israel and any in depth research into it shows this to be so.
I might add that if correct we are all in a lot of danger.
Rather, could it be that national Israel to be in a lot of danger because Jesus already told us their religious house of worship was abandoned by God at Matthew 23:35
Could a person or a fleshly nation be more abandoned then to already be abandoned by God ___________
So, Not all in a lot of danger because God will come to the rescue to the aid of true worshippers
- Isaiah 26:20-21; Psalms 27:5; 91:4; John 4:23-24
 
Old 04-19-2024, 03:30 PM
 
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Rather, could it be that national Israel to be in a lot of danger because Jesus already told us their religious house of worship was abandoned by God at Matthew 23:35
Could a person or a fleshly nation be more abandoned then to already be abandoned by God ___________
So, Not all in a lot of danger because God will come to the rescue to the aid of true worshippers
- Isaiah 26:20-21; Psalms 27:5; 91:4; John 4:23-24

Well again I just don't believe Christianity to be relevant. Its just piggy backing on top of the modern Israel. Its trying to fit together 70 AD and modern times and it does not work. During Jesus time the temple was still there. There was no mention of twice. He said that generation would see it come to pass.



However Judasim has their gog/magog war which seems to have forces trying to manipulate it into existence, which is just money power. There is also much more recent commentary in the Kabbalah and it seems they want to make good on it. Also the idea that very wealthy people not trying to bring this about would not happen is absurd. We know Christians are tying to help god as they do when they fund immigration to Israel to fulfill their perceived prophesies. However they are dupes and we know that that ideology was funded. The plan that is being followed is in the Kabbalah.


Case in point Jesus said in heaven that there would be no men and women. However that is after death in Christianity. However the Kabbalah heaven on earth is happening now because the same people behind WWIII are also behind the gender bending agenda. The end of the sexes is very much part of their messianic age agenda.



When Adam sinned they separated into the sexes and is considered a curse. That is another place where Christianity does not match their concept of the one god. The one god to the Kabbalah is all with the divine sparks reunify into one including one being being both sexes.



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Old 04-20-2024, 06:18 PM
 
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Again you are talking about the Christian interpretation. When Christianity became the dominate region in Rome the interpretation was that the kingdom on earth had arrived. It was optimistic and a spiritual heaven until such time the end of all with the new heaven and earth. Chrysostom would be a good example of moving to amillennialism.


The problem is we can trace various times of revival of the end times premillenial approach such as Samuel Untermyer and Darby that was behind the movement to create a climate sympathetic the modern state of Israel. Thus the Christians are being fed an eschatology somewhat consistent with the Kabbalistic version being implemented , but false. The Christian texts are clear the end times was during the time of Christ.



Jude.
17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

Hebrews 9
But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27

What is consistent is the end times of the Kabbalah due in no small part being a product of the medieval period and beyond. They intend to make heaven on earth themselves. They plan to do this by removing most of humanity in the apocalypse. Heaven will start underground in a shinning darkness(Judaism was always hostile to the sun). That is why we see under ground bunkers , the ramp up to world war artificial intelligence, androgyny where the cycle of birth and death considered a curse is ended.

I have no idea if more powerful force behind it are high jacking this Sabbataen/Frankist interpretation, actually believe it or seems just like a good plan or what.

One thing where I agree with evangelicals is Israel could never have been created by chance,. They think its god. I think it is a banking and financial cartel to stage all this. They created Israel and any in depth research into it shows this to be so.

I might add that if correct we are all in a lot of danger.
When you post statements like "Judaism was always hostile to the sun", as if Jews are cave-dwelling troglodytes, and add in tropes about banking and financial cartels having created Israel, then I think we can see the tenor of your posts. I won't mice words either: they're anti-Jew and anti-semitic.
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